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mn3207 bbd...what can i do with these?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: mn3207 bbd...what can i do with these? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

let me start by saying i have never made a bbd circuit before.

so i found these online (mn3207 with clock chip as well) and i ordered a few of these new production BBD chips from visual sound. But after I ordered them I started worrying that they wont be the right chip for what I want to make as I havent seen them in any schematics. (i guess it was an impulse buy)

anyone know of any good delay/flanger/chorus schematics that use these or something like these?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You could build a Zombie Chorus. There is an mn3207 version...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've understood it is a reissue of the beloved MN3007.
But works with different voltage (5v ?) and - as usally with reeditions - sounds more crappy/noisy than the original one.

(i'm no purist and hope this is all wrong)

(sorry)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi:
I don't think that the MN3207 is a reissue of the MN3007, I think both was
originally made by Panasonic with the same functionality, but different
working voltages.
I bought some recently to make the DIM C, a clone of the Boss Dimension C
(do a search in the forum, there is thread about it).
But this chipset is used in a lot of stomp choruses.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If I remember correctly those were used in a lot of 80s-90s Ibanez analog choruses/ flangers. Shangai Belling still makes them under the name BL3207.
Please correct me if wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Indeed, the MN30xx and MN32xx are not interchangable.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

so i can make a dim c with these?

can you chain them to get a longer delay time? i am getting three so i figured i could try em out. they were only 3 bucks a piece which i think is cheap for a bbd. does anyone have any advice on other bbds to buy and where to get them cheaply for an analog delay?

thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hi loss,

one clock chip (mn3101/mn3102) can drive 8192 stages. so, as the mn3207 has 1024 stages, you can drive 8 of them with one clock chip (maybe that´s just true for the mn300x series, and the mn320x series is a little different...).
i recently saw a schematic of chained panasonic bbds, but can´t remember where...
you can have a look at the mn3005, it´s a 4096 stage bbd, and with this chip you can create pretty long delays. it´s not cheap, though...

best wishes,

tobias.

ps: when i find the bbd-chain schema, i´ll post them here
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Yamaha E1010 delay perhaps which uses 4 MN3005.
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b-funk



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

not really, it was another device...

but i completely forgot about the e1010 and the e1005 (uses 2x mn3005 and 1x mn3004)...

has anyone the scheamtics for those? looks like a cool clone-project...

best wishes,

tobias
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

b-funk wrote:
not really, it was another device...

but i completely forgot about the e1010 and the e1005 (uses 2x mn3005 and 1x mn3004)...

has anyone the scheamtics for those? looks like a cool clone-project...

best wishes,

tobias


E1010 circuit

http://www.4shared.com/file/30199692/5f70dd1f/1010b.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/30199724/5425cbd6/1010a.html
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mr giles,

thank you very, very much Very Happy

definitley the time for me has come to start cloning...


best wishes,

tobias
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I got that circuit back in the 80s by writing a letter (remember them!!) to Yamaha.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

a l.. a lett... letter?

what´s that? Very Happy
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