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Texas -Based Artists Seem Slighted
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redskull



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 1:57 pm    Post subject: Texas -Based Artists Seem Slighted Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is only my second post, but I felt it was needed to be said.

Being that I am from Texas [u.s.] I am constantly meeting those online with the idea that because I am in the Lone Star State, I am undeserving of my role as an electronic musician. I realize that this is an isolated case scenario as far as online comments made to me, but it seems to become more common as I become more exposed and meet new people.

Why exactly is this?

I take inspiration from all over the globe, both in style,form,substance and execution of my work, so I am not sure I understand the phenomenon. Anyone have some input?

-redskull
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ignore it.

Or.. maybe you could ask where you SHOULD come from in order to be accepted?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm sorry to hear about this. I certainly don't think you'll get that anti-Texas attitude at electro-music.com. You are welcome here.

The reason anyone holds any discriminatory bias or hatred is because they feel themselves separate from the oneness of creation. Separateness makes one feel incomplete and inadequate. We make up and believe negative stories about others in order to make themselves feel better, by being superior. These stories tend to attact other stories, so they come in groups. If being overtly superior to one group feels so good, why not hate everybody. Anti-Texas feelings might a associated with other anties, like anti-Bush, anti-American, even anti-Republican, anti-Semitic or anti-Muslim. The unfortunate result is that these stories make everyone's life, miserable, as you have pointed have reminded us.

While we are talking about negative feelings:
We not only have make up and believe stories about other people, but about art as well. Sometimes when listening to music, thoughts come to mind like, "too much of this, not enough of that; too much bass; not enough bass; to simple too complex; not pretty enough; too pretty; too similar to that; etc." This happens when to me when I listen to other people's music and my own. I think these thoughs of criticism and judgement come from the same place as the other stories about people.

It's probably best to let those thoughts be by themselves, and listen to the music that playing now with judgement suspendend, because it is the only music that is playing now, and that's pretty special.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well said, Howard
it's very easy to judge other people through our own "deforming glasses".
A few years ago I read a great book about it:
"Vital lies, simple truths" by Daniel Goleman
Every once in a while I go back to read it and it is always enlighting Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cool

Reminds me that for some reason I often get comments about my own musical project which contain references to vikings and winter and skiing and polar bears and whatever people out there thinks is appropriate to Norway. I guess I would have gotten similar twisted comments if I had happened to be turkish, japanese or whatever.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
Cool
I guess I would have gotten similar twisted comments if I had happened to be turkish, japanese or whatever.


I guess you Norsemen are always accoused of writing Arabic music. Laughing

[please forgive the inside joke...]
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! arrrrrgh!

Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2003 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Each response thus far was insightful and made me look at the issue from different focal points. I appreciate your blunt and to-the-point reply electro Smile

And as for the other answers, yes, I agree. Although this issue was truly a confusing one to me, it was not in the least upsetting me, I simply took notice.

For example, one of the instances involved a comment of "texans listen to country" or some other such nonsense. My parental units had intercouse in Yee-Haw land, and I therefore didn't get a vote in, HEH.

I realize now that the issue I was asking about is really about cultural diversity and the individual comfort zones we as human beings like to keep our skins within.
Thanks to one and all.

Oh, and I want a viking helmet Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

redskull wrote:


Oh, and I want a viking helmet Very Happy


I can offer a pizza helmet Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Twisted Evil

gimme dat pizza helmet! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I did see some condoms with a viking helmet in front.. intended for tourists.. but I guess that does not beat a decent pizza helmet...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

redskull wrote:
Twisted Evil

gimme dat pizza helmet! Smile


maybe is not such a great idea:
I have never seen a red skull with a pizza helmet (riding broncos Very Happy )

about prejudice I have an interesting anecdote:
I was living in Boston, MA. I met a guy that was a teacher in a primary school in NYC (so, I suspect he should not be extremely ignorant).
He, seriously, asked me if we, in Italy, had goats as pets (I repeat, he was serious). I barely restrained myself from strangling him and informed him that no, we do not consider goats as pets.
Though camels as pets are OK Shocked

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well.. dunno.. primary school teacher? Hmm.. in that case perhaps this guy has a special thing going with goats?

Camels?? The tobacco brand?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Goats? Hmm.. primary school teacher? Probably of of Satan´s henchmen..
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
Goats? Hmm.. primary school teacher? Probably of of Satan´s henchmen..

I do not think so. Actually he was a religious man but I am not going to tell you which one was his religion. I do not want to mess with this matter Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

carlo.. say no more!


SAY NO MORE!!!


hey... check yer mail.. I sent you a link for some Grace Allen and george Burns Shows from the 40s. Great music.. live recordings and great comedy. Recommended. You will find some Mel Blanc there too.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Gals N Guys.

I aint from the lone star state. I am form a small pair of islands that nestle below the southern cross.
Aotearoa. AKA. New zealand.
I hear your confusion RS
I understand it also.
I can only dream of a pizza helmet ( I wore one made of a watermelon once to a cricket match . I blame beer.

those who question you
provide you with material and insight.
I know americana I enjoy
as with most modulated sound sources my enjoyment is high.
I use drugs but i dont get high.

Redskull be well.
Please all of you, including myself, take heed of that.

I am glad I made it here.

Can I get a welcome?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

WOWZERS!! Shocked Sure! Will a stampede of endangered analog oscillators do? For now, that is? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
WOWZERS!! Shocked Sure! Will a stampede of endangered analog oscillators do? For now, that is? Laughing


You make em scream, And I'll make em steam!!!!

Love the vibe here!!!

And espeshullee thu spall chekk hehehehe
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ze spellungsgechecker ist in der mail! Ach!

or whatever.. man do I have to get more wine..
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

invisibl wrote:
Hi Gals N Guys.

I can only dream of a pizza helmet ( I wore one made of a watermelon once to a cricket match . I blame beer.


Can I get a welcome?


whoever can dream of a pizza helmet is welcome here Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

invisibl wrote:
Hi Gals N Guys.

I aint from the lone star state. I am form a small pair of islands that nestle below the southern cross.
Aotearoa. AKA. New zealand.


actually I was hoping to get an Invisibl agent down under and there you are. what a coincidence!
welcome aboard

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

invisibl wrote:
I am form a small pair of islands that nestle below the southern cross.
Aotearoa. AKA. New zealand.

I am glad I made it here.

Can I get a welcome?


Welcome, Invisbl. Your avatar does you justice. Wink

I just got back from visiting Mr. Elektro80 in Norway. It was most beautiful. Reminded me of pics I've seen of New Zealand.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked

did you bring me back something? Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

redskull wrote:
Shocked

did you bring me back something? Razz


No, but I'll send you a graphic file real soon. Sorry to disappoint...
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