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3phase



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Hello Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello,
I joined this forum because Mr Moscovitz avatares showed me that hanging around here makes younger...
not that i feel too old...i am at least another year a youngster.
about me
born june65... first electronic release in 1983 and still poor artist
however...the show must go on
Sven
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Welcome!

Any day now we're going to see mosc's baby picture as his avatar!
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3phase



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:09 am    Post subject: Hi Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks...are you sure its only his pictures? Sad
Typical...never trust the internet...

I had a look on your side...your machines are gorgeous and look like fun...
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jkn



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

3phase... mildly baffled by your website. (maybe I should have the sound up?)

Welcome to the forum. You've got me by five years on age, but I probably still feel older than you... Wink
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3phase



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sorry about my webside...its more like a permanent placeholder and tons of material await the day when i finaly force myself to learn a web editor...actually i should do that soon now...
these berlin summers are timeconsuming and force childish behaviour Smile
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elektro80
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello Sven! Welcome!

...first electronic release 1983...? ..what kinda style?

... that website of yours is great! Shocked Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

welcome Sven...

Attracted here by my youthening avatars eh? Well, thanks. That's a first. Laughing

Thanks for joining up and saying hello...
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3phase



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

...first electronic release 1983...? ..what kinda style?

beatorientated experimental noise and controled feedbacks Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Kool...

I was pretty busy myself way back then.

Q: Beat oriented in 1983... what would that sound like?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Welcome.


Love to here the 1983 stuff. Depending on the month I was probably walking ::)
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jkn



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I love controlled feedback.
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3phase



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ups ... so much interest Smile
thanks for the warm welcome


Q: Beat oriented in 1983... what would that sound like?[/quote]


rather horrible...not exactly funky... zaggatakkataktaktak...
and there was rarley a syntheziser only produktion (expensiv beasts)...tapeloops and a delay with holdswitch was the main instruments...a pro one... cheap drumboxes
steeltrash with guitarpickups...modified electret mics ( they feedback like hell), flutes, violins, plastiktanks, water and from a certain point a emu drumulator i sometimes lent from this kriminal down the road. all combined in whatever possible way... Tapecollage and multiple backingtapes...this kind of stuff.
Was more fun doing it than listening to it. Maybe I put a few from the better pieces on my webpage one day.
It s a bit dangerous in germany to put your music on a webpage these days...you might end in a situation where you pay 20cents for each download of your own music... They try to fight for musicans rights now ( har har har)...You can claim the money back...(in my case i would get around 40% 2 years later back)... They cant control the public...so they try now to control the musicans...
Musicindustrie sucks Evil or Very Mad
I think i ve to find a server in another country or win a lawcase
I never signed these papers for internet rights...but this dont says that they dont try to get you before court...not so easy, i will meet a lawyer next week...
However...have fun Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've heard a little about this before. Do you think using a creative commons license would help?

Who would have thought it would be so difficult to give something away for free. I guess societies (not just individuals) can have trouble accepting gifts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Actually... thsi is a growing problem all over the world. THX to "help" from you know who in the US.. legislators all over the world are ensuring
1) that the artists are getting the share..
2) that the way the new system works actually kicks the unsigned artists completely out of the game

Soon you might wake up in a world where you have to be signed in order to release music in any way. This is NOT a joke. So.. it is just excellent to ignore what the majors are up to. They are NOT only figting piracy, biut also fighting "noise" in the marketplace.. and yes.. the small unsigned artists are noisy. These unwanted elements are making the customers lose their focus on the proper products.

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Michael Chocholak



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hiya 3phase. You're looking great btw. Looking forward to hearing your music ... somewhere, sometime. Be sure to post something about it when it happens.

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Soon you might wake up in a world where you have to be signed in order to release music in any way. This is NOT a joke.


Great. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Can't even GIVE my own music away!? Well... it'll always be available somehow. A century or two ago the gov't here in it's infinite xtian/capitalistic wisdom outlawed native american potlatch (giveaway) which the old white guys thought was insane since it wasn't profit oriented.

I'd always suspected this kind of thing would happen. I thought it was one of the reasons for the very shady sale of mp3.com. Wiped out A LOT of indies with that one.

So. Does anyone have a link? Someplace I could go and read about it so I can get even more depressed & pissed off?

(Sorry about the OT rant 3phase. Can't you post on one of the many free OMDs instead of your own page without putting yourself in jeopardy?)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Michael Chocholak wrote:
(Sorry about the OT rant 3phase. Can't you post on one of the many free OMDs instead of your own page without putting yourself in jeopardy?)


when i give away music free it have to go over my webpage...otherwise its useless... I see it more as an acustic illustration of the future text/artwork content of my webpage... Something to motivate people to give up one or two beers and buy some music direct from the farmer....

This is actually wrong...The music industrie are the farmers...musicans are seen as cows in this game...Difficult to motivate people to buy directly from the cow...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

3phase wrote:
The music industrie are the farmers...musicans are seen as cows in this game

That's a classic!
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