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Considering USB Flash Drive for backup...any experiences?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Considering USB Flash Drive for backup...any experiences?
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I've almost stockpiled my harddrive. I'm considering a couple 4 gig "usb flash drives" for backup...

I'm very paranoid about backing up my files. Does anyone have any first-hand good/bad experiences with this type of backup?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not 1st hand, sorry Very Happy

Data retention time for flash devices should be 10+ years, not really worse than CD or DVD, it's relativly expensive though ... I think an external hard disk would still be the cheapest way to back up, no idea how long it will hold it's data.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, flash drives are okay, but I'd go for an external USB drive. Heaps easier, heaps more reliable than a CD/DVD. Fast to update.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Uncle Krunkus wrote:
Yeah, flash drives are okay, but I'd go for an external USB drive. Heaps easier, heaps more reliable than a CD/DVD. Fast to update.


Hmm... is that really true? By external USB drive I assume you mean an ordinary harddisk housed in an external cabinet? By the horror stories I've heard (and experienced myself), a harddisk is less reliable than a CD/DVD - and it's more vulnerable to bumps etc. Still, of course it's better to distribute your eggs in several baskets.

I would be interested in seeing some kind of research on what is the best (cheapest/easiest) backup media that you can be sure lasts 20+ years... there are many technologies these days.

I'm personally using an iomega Rev drive, which feels a bit clumsy, but it works - though I'm not that sure that they are more reliable than ordinary harddisks if you use them a lot (they say 30 years "shelf life" at iomega, whatever that means).

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I wouldn't even bother considering how to store your data for 20+ years. In 3 years, the capacity of anything that's available storage wise will be at least double to size and nearly half the price of today.

Your best bet, is to get a large hard drive today. 3 or 5 years from now, you can buy another hard drive, and transfer everything from your current drive over in a matter of minutes. And someday, it might not be a hard drive, but it doesn't matter, since your isolating yourself from the technology that will be available. That's one of the nice things about digital content. Just move it to the next media available when you need to. This is much easier than scattered DVDs or CDROMs that you would have to store safely, and to recover or even browse data will take a long time.

Personally, I have a RAID setup on my home computer (the one not used for audio). This is a set of redundant drives. If one of them should fail, I can just replace it, and the data is rebuilt/recovered automatically. Of course, this doesn't protect against fire or total system failure, so I have a second removable usb hard drive that I keep in a safe.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have had external drives fail. One was a portable laptop drive in an external USB case. All data lost (60 gigs). Another was a regular sized hard drive an external housing. Backup media should be less vulnerable than the the original to loss, failure or corruption.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Considering USB Flash Drive for backup...any experiences
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destroyifyer wrote:
I've almost stockpiled my harddrive. I'm considering a couple 4 gig "usb flash drives" for backup...

I'm very paranoid about backing up my files. Does anyone have any first-hand good/bad experiences with this type of backup?


I've found them slower than hard drives (so far), but they are more durable. (Not as durable as CD/DVD backups, though, in my opinion.)

They don't have a lot of space for my purposes, 4 gigs won't handle a full image of many computer drives for instance. DAW projects can reach the gigabyte level relatively easily, so you won't fit many of those either. Other types of documents, of course, take up a lot less space.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

By external USB drive I meant those little cigarrette packet sized ones. I've got an 80G one.
From my experience any kind of drive is more reliable than optical media. Using various levels of quality, on different systems, by myself and a number of friends, the regularity of an optical backup suddenly deciding it's unreadable at the one time you need it has gone way past being a joke. If you are using optical media, make sure you make three copies. No, two is not enough. For me, all this added work trying to make a reliable backup meant that I didn't backup as often as I should. So I switched to the little USB drive.
I do have a second drive in my system with a backup on that too, but around here lightening strikes are quite common. (One took out everything but my drives less than six months ago) So I really need an un-connected option as insurance.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

For just backing up a few project files and other data and documents, sure a USB Flash drive is fine. A capacity of 2 to 4 GB should be good for this sort of backing up.

For system images and large backups, I agree with Andy, a USB flash drive is the way to go.

I my home, there are actually 5 computers that are all wirelessly connected via our LAN. My backup solution was to add a LAN DRIVE. A hard drive mounted in a case that has Ethernet connectivity and it just plugs into my ethernet switch. All computers see this drive and with some management software, I can set it up with various access rights and do other administrative type things. I also use it for entertainment media storage like MP4 and MP3 files so everyone has access to them for loading into our MP3 and PSP players.

I find the various R/W optical media to be unreliable for backing up my data but have had little issue with CD/DVD-R media. I sometimes have made bootable CD/DVD's with hard drive images of my computers.

I guess what you use is dependant on your situation.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Uncle Krunkus said:
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I've got an 80G one.


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