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hollo321
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 Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:29 am Post subject:
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| hi im new to using nord generator with my lead2 and it works fine sending patches from the computer to my nord lead but not the other way around. when ever i try sending a patch from my nord lead 2 to the computer, i press recieve recieve under sysex, but nothing happens and then under sysex it displays stop recieving under send. am i doing somehting wrong? thanxs |
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Wout Blommers
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:22 am Post subject:
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 hollo321
The setting [sysex > receive] enables the tool to receive the information; it not a command to send the sysex. To do this, press on the synth [Shift+Dump One]. If the parameters in the tool change, the information is in the computer...
Contact here again when you have success using in the above moves 
There is a bug, not that important, but essential when saving on the computer.
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hollo321
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject:
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| thanks wout |
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Wout Blommers
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject:
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Does it work?
What is the 'bug'...?
It's about saving the file on the computer. When opened for the first time, NordGen has already one Patch to be saved: the 'blank' Patch. The Patch counter indicates [1]. When uploading from the synth the indicator reads [2] Every new upload will be added. So far, no problem.
Only when saving to the hard disc, all those extra Patches are saved too. A normal Patch file is 139 bytes!!! No more. I created files 15 Mb large, which only produced the latest uploaded one, so just one sound...
What to do?
In the folder, in which you want to save, copy and paste NordGen. It's a small tool, so it won't use much room on your disc. Use this particular tool to upload from the synth to the computer. After uploading go to [File > Explode Bank] which results in two files in the folder, named nord0.ngf and nord1.ngf. The first one is the 'blank' file, the last one is the file you want to save. Delete nord0.ngf and rename nord1.ngf as you like it to be saved. BTW [Explode Bank] is the same as 'being saved all' to the hard disc.
I rename the suffix *.ngf > *.syx, because SysEx can be used in other situations too. (ngf = syx)
Note: NordGen always 'explodes' in the folder the tool is situated, so if you don't use the same folder as where to be saved in, there is a search quest needed...
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hollo321
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 3:46 am Post subject:
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| ok so every time i want to save a new patch, i do the process u described by after dump explode bank and delete the 1st file? |
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Wout Blommers
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:12 am Post subject:
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| hollo321 wrote: | | ok so every time i want to save a new patch, i do the process u described by after dump explode bank and delete the 1st file? |
Yes. I wrote this a little bit longer  Don't forget when you want to dump another Patch, first [File > Clear Bank], otherwise NordGen will add the newly dumped Patch to the first two.
It's not a very nice way, but it works and it keeps your archive clean!
You don't need to save when you use the 'explode' command. The file is already on the disc. When opening a file into NordGen (*.ngf opens when clicking the file in the archive; *.syx have to be assigned to it - normal Windows procedure) and you change a parameter in the tool itself, you can use [Save] only.
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hollo321
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:28 am Post subject:
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| cool not too complicated. one more thing though. im noticing that when my sequencer(cubase) is open, im not able to send or recieve sysex with the generator. MUST the sequencer be closed to use the generator?thnxs |
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Wout Blommers
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| hollo321 wrote: | | ... one more thing though. im noticing that when my sequencer(cubase) is open, im not able to send or recieve sysex with the generator. MUST the sequencer be closed to use the generator?thnxs |
AFAIK Cubase is rather aggressive claiming Midi ports.
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