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ADSR output too "high"
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: ADSR output too "high" Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi,

I recently build a Yusynth ADSR (old version). When I connect it to my synthesizers VCA, and turn the VCA output to 0 there is still a sound. I believe that the ADSR output is too "high".

Can anyone recommend a possible solution? Could I maybe add a resister to the output jacks of the ADSR?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The old version has the usual problem of this ADSR core, there is a residual 0.2V at resting. Which VCA are you connecting it to ? Usually this is not a problem because the mute level of the VCA can be adjusted (internal trimmer) to a lower level.
This problem is corrected in the next version of the ADSR to appear on my site soon.

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thank you for the reply! I am using it with a MFOS minisynth plus VCA, which upon reviewing the schematics I believe it not to have an internal trimmer.

Is there anyway of fixing this problem by modifying the current circuit as a pose to building a new one?

Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you are using the Soundlab Mini, you may change the value of R17, try 120K instead of 150K.
Otherwise you may replace the diode D2 in the yusynth ADSR by a BAT41 Schottky diode or a germanium diode (1N34A/1N270)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yusynth wrote:
If you are using the Soundlab Mini, you may change the value of R17, try 120K instead of 150K.
Otherwise you may replace the diode D2 in the yusynth ADSR by a BAT41 Schottky diode or a germanium diode (1N34A/1N270)
I'm experiencing this problem(.2V sitting at rest) with V.2. Will the diode swap work on this version?

(EDIT.)I swapped D2 out for a BAT41, it worked very well. The Envelope Generator no longer activates the VCA while in the quiescent state. Although, if I look into the LED, i notice that it is still slightly illuminated. I raised the resistor(R22) to reduce the brightness while at rest.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Update to my previous post.
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if I look into the LED, i notice that it is still slightly illuminated. I raised the resistor(R22) to reduce the brightness while at rest.

For some reason when I was testing this module, I would hold the gate and wait for the LED to turn completely off. Come to find out, the LED won't turn off completely(stays slightly illuminated) until the gate is removed. I am fine with how this actually functions, I was previously under the assumption that it wouldn't turn off at all. In that case the LED would have been very annoying. I am going to replace R22 for the suggested value.

Also, I wanted to ask a quick technical question. I recently added a modification to this circuit, it is a second input and Schmidt trigger. The idea is to create a reset, making staccato or no sustain a bit easier. That is, I create a positive trigger(0V to 15V,2 ms) with an external differentiator circuit that turns changes in my keyboard CV into a quick pulse. This pulse is then patched into the new input which is a duplication of the original input all the way to the pin2 of the 7555. Therefor Q1-Q3 are included. The new circuit is not connected to pin 4 via the "new" Q2, but is connected to pin 2 via Q3. It seems to work very well. I was curious if I would need to separate the outputs of the "old" and "new" Q3s where they converge at Pin 2 of the timer??
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