electro-music.com   Dedicated to experimental electro-acoustic
and electronic music
 
    Front Page  |  Radio
 |  Media  |  Forum  |  Wiki  |  Links
Forum with support of Syndicator RSS
 FAQFAQ   CalendarCalendar   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   LinksLinks
 RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in  Chat RoomChat Room 
 Forum index » Clavia Nord Modular » Nord Modular G2 Discussion
Hard Sync Tutorial (etc) for G2?
Post new topic   Reply to topic Moderators: Nord Modular Editors
Page 1 of 1 [12 Posts]
View unread posts
View new posts in the last week
Mark the topic unread :: View previous topic :: View next topic
Author Message
ssgrfk



Joined: Oct 21, 2011
Posts: 12
Location: Berlin

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:29 am    Post subject:  Hard Sync Tutorial (etc) for G2?
Subject description: Hard Sync Tutorial (etc) for G2?
Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello.
Ive just found these tutorials for some interesting sound stuff but they all seem to be using the G1 Nord . Does anyone know if it was ever updated for the G2 or if there are any other good advanced G2 tutorials?
Thanks!
http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/Modularzone/Hardsync.html

_________________
http://www.materialobject.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
xav



Joined: Mar 21, 2005
Posts: 164
Location: paris
Audio files: 8
G2 patch files: 7

PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't know if it is an update, and I suppose you already know his G2 tutorial... Il not, it is here
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-1638.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ssgrfk



Joined: Oct 21, 2011
Posts: 12
Location: Berlin

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks.
Yes I've done that one and its great. now i want more!

i Found this one aswell but its also For G1
http://www.cim.mcgill.ca/~clark/nordmodularbook/nm_book_toc.html

obviosuly the same techniques apply but im quite interested in getting in deep with the examples and listening to exactly what the guys are discussing

_________________
http://www.materialobject.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Roland Kuit



Joined: Sep 29, 2003
Posts: 1090
Location: The Netherlands/Sweden
Audio files: 8
G2 patch files: 127

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

See my blog:
http://rolandkuit.blogspot.com/
or here at the discussion pages about SoundLab I & II.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ssgrfk



Joined: Oct 21, 2011
Posts: 12
Location: Berlin

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Looks cool, i cant seem to find the price? how much is it?
thx

_________________
http://www.materialobject.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Roland Kuit



Joined: Sep 29, 2003
Posts: 1090
Location: The Netherlands/Sweden
Audio files: 8
G2 patch files: 127

PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thank you for your interest.
You can find the price and how to order information at the right side of my blog.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ssgrfk



Joined: Oct 21, 2011
Posts: 12
Location: Berlin

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Am i reading that right? 110 euros?

anyone got any links to any other free tutorials?
thanks

_________________
http://www.materialobject.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
iPassenger



Joined: Jan 27, 2007
Posts: 1067
Location: Sheffield, UK
Audio files: 5
G2 patch files: 78

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ssgrfk wrote:
Am i reading that right? 110 euros?

anyone got any links to any other free tutorials?
thanks


I think someone tried to convert all of the G1 tutorial patches to the G2, I think it is on the forum somewhere. There is a catch though, there is a connection called Master/Slave on the G1 which isn't there on the G2. In certain situations it can be worked around and in others I am pretty sure it can't. I tried to do similar to you at one point and I seem to remember that master/slave business caused a lot of problems.

_________________
iP (Ross)
- http://ipassenger.bandcamp.com
- http://soundcloud.com/ipassenger
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
ian-s



Joined: Apr 01, 2004
Posts: 2669
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Audio files: 42
G2 patch files: 626

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Plenty of members are happy to answer specific questions.
Also you can do a search for old posts. I seem to remember Tim doing some interesting sync related stuff.

Phase sync is one of the things the G2 does not do very well.

If you sample a regular G2 saw sync sweep, you can see that where the sync oscillator self resets, there is sinc shaping on the waveform indicating good anti-aliasing. Unfortunately the resets from the master seem to only have trivial anti-aliasing and this makes the effect sound awful. Pity because I love the sync sweep sound.

It is also a pity that we never got a proper tri-core soft sync option where the waveform slope changes direction on each edge of the master oscillator.
The sound is somewhat similar to the wave wrapper effect but different enough to be missed.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Tim Kleinert



Joined: Mar 12, 2004
Posts: 1148
Location: Zürich, Switzerland
Audio files: 7
G2 patch files: 236

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quote:
I seem to remember Tim doing some interesting sync related stuff.

I was trying to work around the bad sync implementation on the G2. Sync sweeps with 50/50 pulse waves can be "faked" quite OK with resonant bandpass filters going into a feedbacked hardclipping circuit. Controlling the feedback relative to filter frequency (rolling off subtly at high freq) makes it virtually immune to aliasing.

Lately I've been thinking if DPW anti-aliasing works in a DIY hardsync scenario. It came to my mind since I've finally come up with a DIY sawtooth osc that has perfect tracking and full 24 bit pitch resolution a few days ago. I'll try it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Roland Kuit



Joined: Sep 29, 2003
Posts: 1090
Location: The Netherlands/Sweden
Audio files: 8
G2 patch files: 127

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

[Am i reading that right? 110 euros? ]
Yes, it is a whole school coarse.

An other way to get softsync:
pulse osc syncs a fm osc(Tri). detune FM osc at pitch and FM input with a constant module and a EG or LFO.
(FM on FM tracking)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ian-s



Joined: Apr 01, 2004
Posts: 2669
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Audio files: 42
G2 patch files: 626

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Tim Kleinert wrote:

Lately I've been thinking if DPW anti-aliasing works in a DIY hardsync scenario. It came to my mind since I've finally come up with a DIY sawtooth osc that has perfect tracking and full 24 bit pitch resolution a few days ago. I'll try it.


Look forward to that.

This morning I thought about how to maybe mask the poor sync parts of the wave. Since we know which part of the wave is the problem.

This patch uses a LfoShp as the master oscillator which can produce a level signal that 'ducks' during the offending reset. It is less than ideal because using a control rate signal as the sync source makes the aliasing worse to begin with.


maskedSync.pch2
 Description:
experiment in nasty sync masking

Download
 Filename:  maskedSync.pch2
 Filesize:  1.41 KB
 Downloaded:  4083 Time(s)

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic Moderators: Nord Modular Editors
Page 1 of 1 [12 Posts]
View unread posts
View new posts in the last week
Mark the topic unread :: View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Clavia Nord Modular » Nord Modular G2 Discussion
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Forum with support of Syndicator RSS
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Copyright © 2003 through 2009 by electro-music.com - Conditions Of Use