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Seeking other frequency divider / binary counter chips
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject: Seeking other frequency divider / binary counter chips Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm aware of the 4040, 4020, 4060 and even 4024 which all count in binary or divide the input clock frequency by half each step.
However I am looking for a frequency divider IC with multiple clock inputs and only a few divisions for each one, 3 is plenty. I'm thinking, if there's one clock input and 3 outputs you could fit 3 separate counters/dividers in a standard 14 pin IC. Does anyone know if such an IC exists? Or anything similar?
I don't want to go wasting a whole 4040 you see, for just three or four outputs. I've got cost and board space in mind too.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Seeking other frequency divider / binary counter chips Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The CD4520 is very nice. It contains two synchronous 4-bit binary counters, each with clk, enable and reset. Clock and enable are somewhat interchangeable, effectively being two clk inputs of opposite polarities.

The similar 4518 is decimal. Its first stage The first stage of each counter is a divide-by-2.

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I'm thinking, if there's one clock input and 3 outputs you could fit 3 separate counters/dividers in a standard 14 pin IC. Does anyone know if such an IC exists? Or anything similar?

Only obscure and over-priced electronic organ ICs. http://www.organservice.com/crm/topdividers.htm#Fig14

Edit: Clarified 4518 detail.

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The CD4520 looks perfect! Very Happy But my usual supplier doesn't have any Sad I may have to resort to Rapid and their extortionate postage charges.

Those old organ chips look very interesting, I'd love to play with some but they are just too expensive/rare Laughing

EDIT: neither my usual supplier, spiratronics, or Rapid have the 4520 Sad Anyone got any they would like to sell me?

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You could also use some flipflops (which is what's usually inside those divider chips) but it'll probably not really reduce the chip count.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

alright Joe

My local shop holds 4520B

They are located near newcatle upon tyne. Not to far from liverpool.
I'm not sure about shipping costs coz i go there in person.

http://www.esr.co.uk/components/products/frame-ics.htm
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I thought about using flip flops phobos, but like you said, increases the chipcount Rolling Eyes

Thankyou mrmrmshoes Smile I may buy from them if I can't get any at my local electronics shop.

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Spiffing! My electronics shop had them in stock Wink They look about 30 years old though Very Happy I love that place.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

JingleJoe wrote:
Spiffing! My electronics shop had them in stock Wink They look about 30 years old though Very Happy I love that place.


The older they are, the warmer the tone.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Psyingo wrote:
JingleJoe wrote:
Spiffing! My electronics shop had them in stock Wink They look about 30 years old though Very Happy I love that place.


The older they are, the warmer the tone.

I sense an air of sarcasm there Wink They are logic chips anyway, I don't know how "warm" they can be Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I don't know how "warm" they can be


Very Happy love this quote.
try 18volts through one, they can get pretty warm. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bubzy wrote:
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I don't know how "warm" they can be


Very Happy love this quote.
try 18volts through one, they can get pretty warm. Smile

Oh I've been there, but with a 74 TTL; it didn't like more than 5 volts at all Rolling Eyes my fingers have hard skin from all the burns, admittedly 99% from soldering but 1% are from hot chips Laughing

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