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matrix12x
Joined: Sep 26, 2009 Posts: 11 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:21 am Post subject:
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| I'm new here and I just started building the MFOS Dual VCA using the Bridechamber front panel. What is the best op amp to use in this for using my VCA primarily for audio? |
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DETOX
Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 143 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject:
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| matrix12x wrote: | | I'm new here and I just started building the MFOS Dual VCA using the Bridechamber front panel. What is the best op amp to use in this for using my VCA primarily for audio? |
what do you mean by "using my VCA primarily for audio"??? isn't this almost always the case with vcas?? _________________ Waldorf Pulse |
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matrix12x
Joined: Sep 26, 2009 Posts: 11 Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject:
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| I have also use my VCAs in the past for CV attenuation |
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falafelbiels
Joined: Aug 13, 2009 Posts: 7 Location: Rotterdam Holland
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:32 pm Post subject:
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| I have used TL084 as in the schematic and it works as expected. I'd almost add another "...as expected". |
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matrix12x
Joined: Sep 26, 2009 Posts: 11 Location: New York
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject:
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| Thanks. I did not know if the TL074's lower noise figure was any help in this type of application. |
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fluxmonkey
Joined: Jun 24, 2005 Posts: 708 Location: cleve
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:31 pm Post subject:
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for audio levels typically found in modular synths (+/-5v), i've never heard a difference between TL074 or TL084... mic level audio might be a different story, but you'd have lots of other factors there, like powersupply and shielding, that would probably be more significant than the opamps. _________________ www.fluxmonkey.com |
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sonicwarrior

Joined: Dec 22, 2005 Posts: 266 Location: Cologne, Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:16 am Post subject:
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If I understand the schematic correctly the TL084 is not in the audio path and processes the CV only.
@matrix12x:
I'm using the Bridechamber front, too. Did you build it in the meantime?
I'm wondering were I have to install the Gain potentiometer as it is not mentioned in the MFOS description/schematics.
Or is it the offset potentiometer without a connection to V- and instead connecting that point to ground? Last edited by sonicwarrior on Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:23 am; edited 1 time in total |
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matrix12x
Joined: Sep 26, 2009 Posts: 11 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:28 am Post subject:
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| I put mine between R17 pin 2 and J3 pin 1. |
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sonicwarrior

Joined: Dec 22, 2005 Posts: 266 Location: Cologne, Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:19 am Post subject:
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| That's the output level, not gain. Gain is the base amplification. E.g. if you want a constant signal without any CV input you raise the gain knob to the needed level. |
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matrix12x
Joined: Sep 26, 2009 Posts: 11 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:52 am Post subject:
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| I know, I was just lazy about it. |
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matrix12x
Joined: Sep 26, 2009 Posts: 11 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:55 am Post subject:
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| A voltage at R11 or R33 would change gain though. |
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sonicwarrior

Joined: Dec 22, 2005 Posts: 266 Location: Cologne, Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject:
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I'll try that then. Thanks for helping.  |
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slacker
Joined: Nov 18, 2007 Posts: 301 Location: England
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matrix12x
Joined: Sep 26, 2009 Posts: 11 Location: New York
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:10 pm Post subject:
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| Yeah, I just rewired mine in that manner last night. |
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sonicwarrior

Joined: Dec 22, 2005 Posts: 266 Location: Cologne, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject:
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I have wired my Dual VCA (the old one one without the bias trimmer) with Bridechamber front panel (adds input attenuator and CV2 attenuator which I both wired the wrong way: Input jack on 1, IN B from the PCB to 2+3 instead of 3 to ground) and wired the gain pot as described above. Oddly when the pot is in the full ccw position the gain is at max and when I move it to the right aka clockwise quickly I hear nothing anymore so most of the way seems useless. Don't know if that has something to do with the wrong way I soldered the input attenuator (I guess not). The pot looks like it's connected the right way (1 to -12 V, 2 to ADJ B, 3 to +12 V).
Any idea what I could check?
I guess the obvious is to check if ADJ B gets -12 V to +12 V when I change the pot position.
Anything else?
Edit: I should note that I only build the B part so far to check for errors. |
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sonicwarrior

Joined: Dec 22, 2005 Posts: 266 Location: Cologne, Germany
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:37 am Post subject:
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| sonicwarrior wrote: | | The pot looks like it's connected the right way (1 to -12 V, 2 to ADJ B, 3 to +12 V). |
I have put -12 and +12 V the other round now which apparently is in accordance with the wiring graphic from the MFOS page (which is a bit confusing as the pot is upside down). I guess the rest is just the normal behavior.
Tried to connect ground instead of +12 V but the Log mode didn't work then. |
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nyd
Joined: Jul 15, 2009 Posts: 8 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:48 am Post subject:
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Anyone tried wiring a pot instead of a switch to adjust the LIN/LOG response of the VCA? I'm thinking in lines of mimicing the uVCA from Intellijel that has a pot to adjust the response.
Would it work? |
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sonicwarrior

Joined: Dec 22, 2005 Posts: 266 Location: Cologne, Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:10 am Post subject:
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| Yes, should work. Intellijel did also just put a pot between these two instead of a switch. The circuit developer Dr Sketch n Etch explained that @Muffwiggler in a thread about the DIY variant of the uVCA. |
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