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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject: 1 sample delay? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi,

Anyone know the most efficient way to achieve a single sample delay on the G2?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

p.s. Many thanks to the creators and contributors of this forum (you know who you are!), this has been an invaluable resource for my G2/synthesis knowledge over the last year.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

HEY! This is first the gurk post! welcome
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the welcome! Very Happy

Just noticed my first post was a year and a day after registering!

Better late than never I suppose!
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm too busy to find and exact reference, but use a 1 channel mixer. That is equivalent to a one sample delay, or Z to the -1.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
I'm too busy to find and exact reference, but use a 1 channel mixer. That is equivalent to a one sample delay, or Z to the -1.


That is in respect to the mixers own input (when the output is fed back to its input it will always work with the previous output sample, so the Z-1 sample, meaning that in a feedback loop there will always be a one sample delay, no matter how much modules are in this feedback loop)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Can a delay module be used as a single-sample delay when set to its minimum setting? The minimum setting is .01 milliseconds, which is 10 microseconds, which is about the length of a single G2 sample. I've verified that a delay set to .01 ms does delay the signal, but I can't tell if it's actually a single sample.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

When the delay's minimum delay would be one sample one would expect an inverted signal added to it (in a "parallel" circuit) to cancel out with it. As illustrated in the attached patch.

The cancelation seems to be near perfect, maybe this gives some insight in how the delay modules work. I suspect the delay modules to be more than 16 bits wide but using some encoding to achieve this.

Like in : The timing delay probably is one sample, but the little bit of residue signal (in the attached patch) must be atributed to the encoding scheme used, maybe ?

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Experiment with minimal delay times, is it a one sample delay ?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

maybe we have mp3 delay lines in the G2 Laughing
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