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EdisonRex
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Tony, can you please check in? You got 14 minutes... _________________ Garret: It's so retro.
EGM: What does retro mean to you?
Parker: Like, old and outdated.
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Skrog Productions

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Acoustic Interloper

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klangumsetzer

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kkissinger
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EdisonRex
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blue hell
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Acoustic Interloper

Joined: Jul 07, 2007 Posts: 2073 Location: Berks County, PA
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:16 pm Post subject:
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Balance. The piece is based on a chord sequence that I have been finger-picking-arpeggiating for a few years, never used in a performance before:
Dm A C G Bb F C Dm.
My wife & son and also several people in my port check noticed some similarity to the progression in the Eagles' Hotel California. It also has some overlap with the progression of Black by Danger Mouse and Daniele Luppi, sung by Norah Jones, and used once or twice in the TV series Breaking Bad, but Balance is identical to neither. In fact, there is a 2nd variation of
Dm A F G Bb F C Dm,
substituting an F for the first C. It just sounds better in that middle fret position.
My idea after playing the initial progression was to move away from "playing the changes" and instead improvise modal-jazz-style over a single chord from that progression for an extended period. Before that, though, I live-recorded the progression from 00:00 to about 02:00, then played it back and dueted using inversions of the recorded chords. The original ascends from the nut twice, then descends from the 10th fret twice, then descends from the 7th fret using the F substitute chord. When I layered the duet in real time, I descended when it ascended (using chord inversions), ascended when it descended (again inversions), and doubled with it on the substitute F section. The result sounds a lot like the chorusing you get with electric 12-string guitar, except over an entire chord instead of over individual notes. The duet runs from Marker01 to Marker02 on the Audition screen shot.
The only editing was trimming dead space at the start and a few seconds manually going into Marker01. I listened to the effect of increasing amplitude starting at Marker02, but I verified an interesting effect that I've known with my ears and I guess intellectually. Even though the amplitude in terms of signal levels drops off at Marker02, the harmonic content is much different because of the inclusion of two no-input mixers. From Marker02 to Marker03 sounds roughly as loud to me as the sections that precede Marker02 because of harmonic content, which is somewhat counterintuitively in the low frequency range. The mixers add a lot of low-end noise. See FFT screen shot, with pre-Marker02 on the left and post-Marker02 on the right. I left the recorded levels unchanged in the posted recording. I think part of the lesson here is to avoid over-reliance on VU meters alone is estimating loudness.
My rig consisted of a Godin xtSA, mostly used as an electric guitar, although I did feed its synth signal live to a Roland GR33 guitar synth playing the "Perc Kit" patch for the drum sound starting at Marker03. Signals fed into Ableton Live. I precorded a simple looped strum of each chord, separately, using the MIDI output of the GR33, and turned them into click tracks (D note, Dm chord, and F chord used in the performance), driving Applied Acoustic Systems' StringStudio strumming a Koto patch (more percussive click) and an AAS Chromaphone Smooth Carillon patch (tinkly). The banjo part from Marker05 to Marker06 was the only non-click-track precorded part. It is a Bart Reiter open-back Professional model with the internal wooden resonator that acts as an equalizer. I didn't want to mess with a mic and instrument change during the performance. The two no-input mixers are my workhorse Yamaha MG124cx and Galaxy Audio AXS-10, both starting with straight analog feedback and then dialing in some in-loop digital delays.
Thanks so much to PHOBoS for setting this up & managing, also Jan, Jez and Paul for switching duties, to everyone who played and listened. Happy New Year!
EDIT 1: Also used an EBow in obvious places, and a Live granular patch that echoes a played note down a minor third, and that note down a minor third, etc., until it decays. I also copied & edited to get a patch that drops to the 5th below for modulating to a major scale. Playing the EBow in a single position against the minor-third delay is interesting, because it continuously reinforces the primary note, with the descending intervals continuous in time, creating sort of a sonic fabric across that scale.
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*Balance*, Copyright 2020, Dale E. Parson, Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0), copy with attribution. |
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_________________ When the stream is deep
my wild little dog frolics,
when shallow, she drinks. |
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RingMad

Joined: Jan 15, 2011 Posts: 428 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:21 am Post subject:
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Once again, I could not listen live nor participate, but I listened to all the recordings posted in this thread, and there's some great stuff! Thanks. _________________ .: james :. |
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Acoustic Interloper

Joined: Jul 07, 2007 Posts: 2073 Location: Berks County, PA
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:30 am Post subject:
Dox the Coup Subject description: Zero-input (no-input) mixer follow-up to NYE |
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While my mixers were still set up from NYE I prepped, played, and posted a one-hour no-input mixer piece called Dox the Coup. _________________ When the stream is deep
my wild little dog frolics,
when shallow, she drinks. |
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modulator_esp
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