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elektro80
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:35 am Post subject:
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http://secunia.com/mac_os_x_command_execution_vulnerability_test/
If you have run all the security updates, Safari will tell you that the file secunia.mov.zip is a program.
If you are like any other computer user out there, this message will make a lot of sense and sure.. "a movie file that is a program.. YES.. I really need to run that program RIGHT NOW!!!"
I reckon there is only a handful of seasoned computer users ( read: old farts ) who thinks like:
a movie file= an executible = a really bad idea= ma, we have a trojan! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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brinxmat

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elektro80
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:09 am Post subject:
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yeah yeah.. PDF.. sure.. nice app though _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:31 am Post subject:
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It worked? *shock* _________________ -- Say "&Eth;onne hit wæs hrenig weðer" |
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elektro80
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:45 am Post subject:
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Well, not quite. But you aren´t running Tiger now are you? Another matter is that I have various stuff hammering away on all downloads so this one made my mac jump with alerts. I did however run your PDF app on my honeypot box. Nice message! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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mosc
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject:
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| elektro80 wrote: | http://secunia.com/mac_os_x_command_execution_vulnerability_test/
If you have run all the security updates, Safari will tell you that the file secunia.mov.zip is a program. |
Does Firefox also do this? _________________ --Howard
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject:
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I am using various versions of Firefox. Right now I have 1.0.6 active. Default behaviour for this version is returning proofofconcepttar_133.gz
as text. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject:
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Woo! hot download! I reckon you should try bzipping it too, because a stacked bzip-gzip-tar might obliviate the contents. I am sure someone will find a way of fooling this enitrely 'doze way of building city walls. Apple need slapping and telling to sort themselves out. I mean, honestly! _________________ -- Say "&Eth;onne hit wæs hrenig weðer" |
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elektro80
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject:
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What we are talking about here is like dad leaving the gun cabinet unlocked and all the famly has free access to his excellent collection of 50 caliber rifles. And dad has all his candy coloured M-67 hand grenades in there too.
What Apple did was simply adopting the old nice smooth Microsoft way of accessing resources on the internet. This has been corrected some, but the way I see this there is still things to be improved. Seasoned computer users won´t have much of a problem with the current model, but personally I think the whole model for how to handle "foreign" files should be changed a bit. Basically we are really lacking a sensible security model for any platform out there for handling this issue. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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mosc
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject:
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I agree with that. The reason I asked about Firefox is that the security should be application independent. In fact, the entire OS should be application indepent to whatever degree that is possible.
I would guess Microsoft would build in a virus/security checker into windows these days but since there are companies selling these tools they might get sued. Maybe Apple isn't in that situation, but there are commercial anti-virus tools for OSX, so maybe they are. Juli's school district which gives Macs to every teacher has a lisence for Symantic for OSX.
I don't like allowing gz, rar, or zip files as attachments on this site because of possible secruity problems, but banning these files would be more trouble than the security problems that might be there.
Still, a lot of kids get killed every year from guns in Daddy's closet.  _________________ --Howard
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject:
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I don't like allowing gz, rar, or zip files as attachments on this site because of possible secruity problems, but banning these files would be more trouble than the security problems that might be there. |
That would be silly. Those aren't executables, if people set up their computer to try and execute any file without credentials then they get what they deserve; it's their computer they can format the HD or they can execte arbitrary files if they want to.
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True. Still; more kids get born every year because people don't take proper precautions. The irony.... _________________ Kassen |
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:20 am Post subject:
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| Kassen wrote: |
That would be silly. Those aren't executables, if people set up their computer to try and execute any file without credentials then they get what they deserve; it's their computer they can format the HD or they can execte arbitrary files if they want to. |
At first launch ( or at first launch after a system update) OS X does in fact ASK the user if he/she really wants to run the application. It can be argued that a simple prompt on the screen is useless. Perhaps molten lead poured on top of the place you keep the family jewels or a slap in the face with a dead penguin would be more like it though. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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