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Uncle Kruckus: What happened to The SLIDE?
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Coriolis



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Uncle Kruckus: What happened to The SLIDE?
Subject description: That neat "fretboard" with all the 1k resistors...
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I was just wondering if it worked, and how well. Did you try controlling your Soundlab with it, or something else? Was it possible to play a scale on it, or were there too few steps (resistors)? I'd like to build a ribboncontroller, but since the right materials are a bit difficult to find (at least for me), that little contraption of yours might be something to try until Paia's kit comes out...
So: Was it any good? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: Uncle Kruckus: What happened to The SLIDE?
Subject description: That neat "fretboard" with all the 1k resistors...
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Coriolis wrote:
but since the right materials are a bit difficult to find (at least for me)


as saying in this thread repeate after me....r i b b o n c o n t r o l e r

i have some 4track and 8track tape that has nice resistance features

PEM 468 has 1M ohm /10cm (approx)
PEM 469 has 700K ohm /50cm (approx)

and you can hook up something like this:
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just PM me your address and the tape will be on its way

daniel

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i wonder what is happening at paia? doesn't seem like anything at all.

the spectrasymbol stuff is pretty good.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

topp wrote:
i wonder what is happening at paia? doesn't seem like anything at all.

the spectrasymbol stuff is pretty good.


When the founder of a small company dies, often the company is not far behind. There are exceptions, but in the case where the founder was the chief engineer and major creative force - it's pretty difficult.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dnny, I sent you a PM. Cool

I did look at that SpectraSymbol, and it looks nice. Did anyone actually do something woth their samples? What was the resistance of it?

Hmm, I hope Paia makes it through somehow. It would be cool if they could somehow stay in business with what they've got. Maybe they could offer Thomas Henry a job? He seems to be so diverse in what he does, just like John Simonton was.
What worries me, is I mailed them for a quote on shipping a midi2cv8 kit to Denmark about 2 weeks ago, and haven't heard anything yet. That's not a good sign in terms of them continuing their business, I think.

I have to say, The SLIDE still looks interesting, simply because resistors and veroboard are easily obtainable components. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I actually dug out the pieces for the slide the other day. (I found them under a 6' long by 6" high pile of stuff which has accumulated on my bench since Hannah was born!) Rolling Eyes
The theory is still sound, it's just a case of which project do I attempt to finish first?
I am thinking of making the Slide able to be plugged into both the Soundlab and the DS7 clone.
If you want any extra pics to help get you started on one let me know.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, congratulations btw! I'm going to be a father myself by september, so now is the time for me to build some stuff... Smile

The pictures you posted seemed to show that what you did (basically) was stringing a bunch of resistors together into one large resistor. You alternated between resistor and jumper wire to get a bit longer scale, and just soldered it to pieces of vero to have something other than the resistors themselves to slide on. Is that it?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Almost,
The trick is that the links and the resistors alternate. So it actually becomes 2 separate spirals which travel around each other. The way you described would still work but the 'wiper' of the pot would have to be a wire which you held in your hand. This way the links and every second strip become a continuous wiper which you only need to short out with something metallic.
One end of the resistors goes to a pot so you can control how far away from +9V the slide starts. the other end goes to anther pot so you can control how far away from -9V it ends. With say 100 resistors you can then dial up whether the slide is 2 semitones long, or 2 octaves long.
I think I worked out that 2 octaves across 100 resistors (1K) would give me about 6 increments per semitone.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I did look at that SpectraSymbol, and it looks nice. Did anyone actually do something woth their samples? What was the resistance of it?


yeah the 8" strip i got measures about 7k. i prototyped it with the paia ribbon controller circuit found on their website. the "ribbon" works well, the circuit needed some other stuff to work properly. you can read some about it in the ribbon thread, i just moved, but when i get more settled i will draw up a schematic.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

here are some alternative and easy methods for ribbon controller construction.

The Synthstick

15 Minutes to a Ribbon Controller

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the links dnny - hadn't seen the last one before, and btw, today I got the tape you sent me in the mail! Cool Thanks again for that! Very Happy
I loved the homemade envelope too... Laughing ...cute cows!

topp: I'd very much like to see that schematic, once you get the chance. Been looking at that Paia project myself, but it's always nice to hear from someone with a bit of building experience...
What did you use for opamps? Any special demands? And what about that bilateral switch? Something from the CD 4xxx series I guess?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Coriolis wrote:
today I got the tape you sent me in the mail! Cool Thanks again for that! Very Happy
I loved the homemade envelope too... Laughing ...cute cows!


wow that was quick! they said that it would be on your door next week ?

about the envelope : i newer have one when i need one - so i make them from pictures cut of from magazines

you are most welcome - hope you enjoy your new rolls of tape Smile

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