deb pack for chuck?

majutsu · Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: deb pack for chuck?

hey! i have suffered a major windows crash from a bad security update. i lost two computers of data. i was out two weeks. i have decided to come back all linux to avoid this kind of thing and get deeper into programming.

i am now successfully running ubuntu (debian) with JACK. Those packages work great! i have a high speed ethernet connect which ubuntu also picked up. i also have suse installed on another, but i like ubuntu more. i need to configure my keyboards still.

there is no deb package i've seen for chuck. if someone knows of one, let me know. if not, i will make a deb, then ubuntu pack for myself and others.

kijjaz · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:22 am Post subject:

i guess someone's also working on an official debian package for chuck

i can see an older version here

http://piem.org/debian
(but haven't tested it on debian/ubuntu)

actually i'm quite a linux newbie, so i get confused easily.
i've succeed compiling chuck from source in linux..
(but last time i didn't lolol, i still haven't got all required package to make)

let's talk on this topic for a while
i was trying to build chuck for linux-alsa
i think i have to get these packages: bison make g++
and some linux header source..
might be some alsa header source..
for linux-oss i guess it'd be easier
if i know exactly how, i'll come back to tell what i did to succeed ^^"

ge · Joined: Aug 13, 2006 Posts: 108 Location: Palo Alto, CA

kijjaz · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:01 am Post subject:

yes! today i just succeeded compiling from source
(on (k)ubuntu .. let's say debian testing (etch))

this is what i did (for compiling for linux-oss):
- edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove # from some deb lines so that i can update from universe
- sudo apt-get update
- sudo apt-get install gcc flex bison libsndfile1-dev
- then i go to the extracted chuck-1.2.0.6 directory, then go to src
- make

Kassen · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:08 am Post subject:

Yeah, I'd love a package as well.

Well, either a package or a list of basically everything that's realy needed and how to make those things "sort themselves out".

Basically; I'm on Demudi which is cool and works well but it works so well with the packages that I got to accidentally install it without GCC...

So I managed to get GCC and G++ and the parser thingies and so on installed and they are fine Jack and Alsa require some sort of library to be configured properly but my package manager (synaptic) isn't too clear about which ones and how. OSS does work; managed to build that and it works aside from file in/out. I got the libsndfile package, then build it myself too but neither does the trick; as soon as I try to call a wav into sndbuf I get a error saying some variable doesn't equal another and that this usually means libsndfile isn't properly configured, no news on how and where to do that (and I did look).

So. that's where I am... A package would be great, but this building stuff, when it works, is fun and gives a sort of feeling of independance. More simple clear info on where and how to mack Jack and libsndfile sort themselves out would be good too.

majutsu · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject:

hi ge very cool. am back on chuck users today. will ask.

i love linux. debian totally rocks. i haven't had this much fun computing since the early days with trs80s and c64s.

ubuntu comes bundled with sc and pd (although the pd midi doesn't work and sc is missing scsynth ?!? but i repacked easily). it should come with chuck too. i tried to get a debian pack, and a debian search turned up nothing. i know you can compile and chuck better than most. but i want to make an ubuntu pack for the ubuntu universe. and maybe an audicle pack too!

hey kassen. i was wondering about demudi. i just needed the gnome, openoffice and all the ubuntu goodies so my wife wouldn't miss windows at all. it's really awesome. man linux has come a long way since i messed with redhat. they are really top dog on some apps. and the community has so much energy, which is what i like most about chuck. a community with a lot of energy and a lot of hope!

Kassen · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject:

Demudi is cool, I like how the default login schreen is this huge tube-radio close-up. This computer mostly gets used for internet though; I'm not putting thewindows laptop online but it does have the real soundcard.

spencer · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject:

majutsu · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject:

that's a good list of dependencies, pretty much what i needed

when i ran chuck, it worked ok for one file, but when tried to play multiple files like the otf examples, i got:

*** Fatal error : sizeof (off_t) != sizeof (sf_count_t)
*** This means that libsndfile was not configured correctly.

EDIT full story otf5 and otf6 work fine, either alone or together! otf4 and otf7 don't work and give the above error. aren't those samples whereas otf5 and otf6 are synths?

how to fix?

Kassen · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject:

majutsu · Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject:

alright!
chuck is working in ubuntu

sudo apt-get install build-essential bison flex libjack-dev libasound2-dev libsndfile1-dev

download the tar to the desktop.

then extract the tar with extract here.

terminal:
cd chuck*
cd src
make linux-alsa
sudo make install

voila!

very cool! everything works fine. don't know what's wrong with my jack, probably why jack midi in pd not working . . .

I will make deb pack soon.

my usb midi keyboard isn't working though that's probably my link up. i get the following error with gomidi

ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory

Kassen · Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:16 am Post subject:

Right, way cool!

Majutsu, are you on the wiki yet? If so, maybe it'd be nice to add this there because I think more people ran into the exact problem and symptomes you & me did. It'd be nice to be rid of those once and for all, at least for users of Debian and it's childeren.

The Wiki isn't that hard to deal with, and you can prview before hitting submit.

nescivi · Joined: Mar 23, 2005 Posts: 94 Location: Montreal

well, the -dev versions of libraries in Debian are the ones that install the headers and stuff, so you can build stuff from source, that need them.

I guess it is assumed you develop stuff, as soon as you try to build them from source Wink

or at least you are using software that is still in a development state...

Kassen · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:03 am Post subject:

majutsu · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:10 am Post subject:

yeah i heard the big man of linux say, "we want to be in development. linux is a process not a goal. we don't want a stable, frozen platform"

Smile

btw chuck is totally ok
it's really my keyboards that aren't connecting to alsa or jack for the midi. i need to figure this out.

kijjaz · Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject:

majutsu · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject:

my usb is now working in chuck on linux, down to the last resistant one -- the m-audio.

i had posted earlier about problems getting my usb o2 m-audio midi to work in dapper. i had tried firmware etc. but after updating jack, alsa, and oss. i got ChucK to recognize my midi perfectly with the ubuntu studio fix:

sudo su
modprobe snd-seq
if grep -q -x snd-seq /etc/modules; \
then echo && echo "NOTE: snd-seq is already in /etc/modules, no changes needed."; \
else cp /etc/modules /etc/modules_backup_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M` && echo snd-seq >> /etc/modules; \
fi
exit

just wanted others who may have this issue to know too.

:p

i am really rolling now. and just in time for the next version!!

i wonder what it's going to be called . . . mummy? werewolf?

jksuperstar · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject:

How is ubuntu for audio? I guess you don't have MIDI working yet, but I have ubuntu on my home pc (internet, etc) and it feels damn slow to most other distro's I've used (on a 1.6GHz AMD/Nvidia NForce System). I seems stable, and has some of what I need, but the menu seems sparse, and I don't know if that's on purpose or if there's more under the hood that's just not visible to the gnome menu.

I like xubuntu better, seems a bit more snappy. Still, the kernel is definitely NOT tuned for pre-emptive and real-time activity. Maybe instead of running it as LiveCD I should install and build my own kernel, though I haven't done that since Fedora Core and the CCRMA stuff...

majutsu · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject:

ubuntu live cd is very slow.
it's a very fast distro when installed, well, same as any debian really.
it's very similar in latency to the demudi distro, have the newest kernels (what would be unstable debian stuff). some of the packages don't really work for music without jiggling. but i got sc3, pd, ams, chuck, hydrogen, beast working. Actually i finally DID get midi working, and the fix is above. ubuntu dapper has a bug where the alsa seq module isn't loaded on boot unless you change the script. it's been about 2 weeks with ubuntu and it's getting smooth. i was using demudi, debian sarge, suse , dynebolic and windows to fill in gaps, but now ubuntu is running everything by herself very well. i am pleased. as far as linux sound experiences go, it's a pleasant little joy ride so far. miniAudicle works too with the 2.6 wxwidgets ubuntu has pre-installed. it's pretty sweet so far, but the above mentioned distros are all i've used.

kijjaz · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:07 am Post subject:

yes! i agree.
my ubuntu machine works fine.
now using dapper.. and with some tweaks from the instructions at
www.ubuntustudio.com

it has instructions for ubuntu dapper & breezy
also for debian sid & etch

i guess the above config for ALSA Sequencer is what i did on my ubuntu dapper
after that, using Jack sound server for running chuck-jack works well.
(but i was quite naughty with that ubuntu machine
and it's behaving strangely these days.)

not i'm addicted to chucking everyday.
sometimes i don't have time..
but a little noise s => dac; for(0 => float t; t < 1; 0.01 +=> t) { t => s.gain; t::ms => now; } a day makes me happy.

- kijjaz

yob · Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Australia

There has been some discussion about getting chuck into debian formally, however it looks like the licensing in a few of the source files might cause some problems.

More info here:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=267626

James

yob · Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Australia

A chuck package for debian has just entered the NEW queue for the official archive.

This means that all going well, it should be available in unstable within a few days, and in testing within a few weeks.

James

majutsu · Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject:

kijjaz · Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:20 am Post subject:

yob: wow.. that is exciting. with this we can expand our chuckian community.

kijjaz · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:37 am Post subject:

oh.. and i also would like to add.
for all people that're compiling chuck & miniAudicle from source..
(i still visit this page frequently to check out what's needed to compile chuck heheh)
some information on this page might be included in the welcome topic.
so that new users that need to compile chuck, miniAudicle, Audicle by themselves feel comfortable.

i'd like to add in this page also, about compiling miniAudicle.
i'm on debian/ubuntu.. and i only need one extra package for compiling miniAudicle:
libwxgtk2.6-dev

i hope you all enjoy as well heheh ^_^ and cheers for today.