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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fonik, I really like that too. The second thing I did after powering up the Klee was to clock it with the Binary Zone. However clearly it takes some thought on the gate triggering.

Anyway that was very cool.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

this is a video with the same patch as in the first one. i just wanted to try something with the audio quality.
in fact the camcorder and u-tube is so new and exciting to me, i have to try it out! bounce

however, especially the 2nd half of the video demonstrates how nice it could be to control the klee with a 2nd simple sequencer: the baby10 controls the base frequency of the CVs AND the pattern load. this way the changed patterns are loaded in sync.




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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Cool Excellent video, Fonik! You were doing something I've always wanted to try - synchronizing external load with a divided clock signal, bravo! That's a very instructional and nice sounding video, keep'em coming!

I snagged this one yesterday about nine minutes after it went public, I think - just happened to log into YouTube at the right time, and there it was. Haven't been able to comment until today because of a series of honey-do projects.... Laughing

Thanks for posting this!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fonik, nice video.

Comments, not just to Fonik:

Let's make more use of stereo spaciality, even in demos.

Why don't some of you guys join in the New Years Eve streaming event?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

YouTube converts stereo files to mono (unless that changed recently with their new "HD" format). Generally speaking, the compression slobberknocks the audio.

AFAIK, Vimeo provides higher resolution audio; stereo I believe.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Scott Stites wrote:
YouTube converts stereo files to mono .


Oh, that sucks. I was unaware of that. Sad

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well, looking at it a bit more, it is possible but one has to jump through hoops. Any stereo file I've uploaded gets converted to mono. I've read several conflicting things about the whole issue - the upshot is, if there is a way, it's not just a simple matter of using your video editor to make a video and just clicking "upload".

Not sure this SW works anymore for YT or not, but at the time this was uploaded, it worked. Read the comments on it:


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

maybe OT somehow.
however, there might be, or might have been ways to get stereo work on youtube, but it is something that youtube obviously does not want to happen. you will have to hack YT. i won't do this.
just my 2pence

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Not hacking YouTube, but if you add &fmt=18 to the end of the URL, most of the time the sound is a lot better.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EdisonRex wrote:
Not hacking YouTube, but if you add &fmt=18 to the end of the URL, most of the time the sound is a lot better.

video as well. no stereo though, from what i observed.

the point is, YT wants to share video, not music, i guess. sharing music is a completely different thing today. think of napster and what it has become...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

EdisonRex wrote:
Not hacking YouTube, but if you add &fmt=18 to the end of the URL, most of the time the sound is a lot better.


Yes, I was just looking around and I found that to work pretty well. It didn't work on Fonik's video though. Maybe is was not recorded in stereo.

But it works on this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJbnNqcHTNc&fmt=18

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
EdisonRex wrote:
Not hacking YouTube, but if you add &fmt=18 to the end of the URL, most of the time the sound is a lot better.


Yes, I was just looking around and I found that to work pretty well. It didn't work on Fonik's video though. Maybe is was not recorded in stereo.

But it works on this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJbnNqcHTNc&fmt=18

my vid has been in stereo. a vid has to have certain parameters. actualy i had thought that stereo has been vanished in youtube at all (it one has been a test feature, i think).

now that you proved it CAN be stereo i will take a 2nd look at it.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The last few videos I posted, I just mixed down to mono before uploading them - I figured why give the YT compression a chance to further jack things up? Dang.

OK, so, this "&fmt=18" - can one somehow put that into the embedding script that is on YouTube?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Scott Stites wrote:


OK, so, this "&fmt=18" - can one somehow put that into the embedding script that is on YouTube?


I tried adding it to the src= parameter but it seems to ignore it. Maybe there is a way, but I haven't been able to figure it out. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Scott Stites wrote:


OK, so, this "&fmt=18" - can one somehow put that into the embedding script that is on YouTube?


I tried adding it to the src= parameter but it seems to ignore it. Maybe there is a way, but I haven't been able to figure it out. Crying or Very sad

the format you upload might have to do something with it. i read this somewhere - there is lot of vague talk, though... mybe avi with layer3 audio is the thing? i will try it after christmas....

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's a video with mainly Klee and a little Appendage. I should have done this with something that wasn't, like, ten minutes long, but there you go: I uploaded it to three different video sharing services. I uploaded it to YouTube, Vimeo, and Sonic State. I don't think any of them rendered it in Stereo. I think Vimeo and Sonic State have better audio, but....man, the Sonic State one went waaaay out of sync.

The only thing stereo about this is the Klee voice is running through the Dim C in stereo. At 5:37 I bypass the Dim C and it goes mono. At 7:46 I un-bypass the Dim C and it goes stereo again. On the original MPEG video, this is pretty dramatic/obvious. I just don't hear it on these videos.

If I can't get the Sonic State one sorted, I'll probably just delete it, but for now here are all three (once again, a ten minute video is not good for comparison, but that wasn't why I originally made this video):

YouTube:



Vimeo:


Klee Sequencer and Appendage Touch Ribbon: Bit Shuffling from Scott Stites on Vimeo.


Sonic State:


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here on my mac I've got them all in stereo - the youtube one after adding the &fmt=18 thing on. Sounds great! Excellent music and video!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Guess I better get a Mac. Laughing

Thanks SDuck - I'm curious, on the Sonic State one, does it have the lag on the audio (on mine, the audio is well behind the video). I can tell right at the beginning when I flip the merge switch and it gates the VCA on, causing the note to sound. On mine, I can see the switch get flipped, then perhaps a second or more elapses before I hear the sound.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

geez... wonder what you could have done if you weren't holding the camrea too...

and... that mass of wires behind yr klee... is that thing still on breadboard?!?

you da man. have a great new year!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

For Klee : listen to http://radio.electro-music.com:8050/ NOW Wink
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Yup, he should post a recording!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No! No! No! No! Shocked You guys should post a notice when this thing starts. Like at the top of the page or something...oh....wait.... Embarassed

Craaaappppp! I missed it - I hope he posts a recording. Damn! Does this streaming get compiled into a recording, maybe as a CD release? That would be nice...

Yeah, Bbob, that pile of wires actually connects to the boards behind the panel. As God is my witness, I had them all neat and orderly, then during proto we had to change some things, and as trouble-shooting goes on here in the threads, I just left them...unhinged. Some day, I'll carefully bundle them up and make an honest Klee out of it.

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Scott Stites wrote:
You guys should post a notice when this thing starts.


We did ... sort off ... http://bluehell.electro-music.com/nye/ ... always expect the spanish inq klee Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Scott - yes, the sonic state one is really delayed in the audio.

Dunno if it's a mac/pc issue - I've seen debates about this kind of stuff before - it may be a browser issue also. And yes, I'm kind of liking how the mac thing works in general - after years of being a pc hotrodder and windows fanatic, about 3 years ago I just kind of got tired of fixing the things several times a year, and the inevitable registry bloat that would kill an active windows install. I've had 2 cheapo mac laptops since then, and they both still work perfectly, as good as day one, even the old powerbook which my 8 year old abuses constantly.
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