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Hardware MIDI CLOCK to gate/pulse converter
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

wmonk wrote:
I could provide part kits for those who want that, if you, Dave and Matthias, agree on that.

I'd be in for that if shipping to Canada isn't too much, otherwise I might as well just hunt the stuff down myself or order it from the US. Could you send via snailmail?
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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If you wanted to distribute MIDI CLOCKS to more than one M2C, a 1-in 4-out MIDI thru box would be the easiest way. That way, The MIDI input only gets buffered and re-sent once.

thanks dave for your reply
something like this would indeed be a very neat solution

midi solutions quadra thru
www.midisolutions.com/products.htm

will need to consider the multiple module idea further i think.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi all.

jksuperstar - interesting.... it would however mean a redesign of the PCB. Song position pointers are quite a bit more complicated to implement in hardware (though by no means impossible) due to their 3-byte nature. I did think about it during the design stage, but it would have made the PCB much larger and the circuit much more complicated. As it is, without SPPs, the GATE and TRIG outputs always be in sync if you start the sequence at the start of a bar. If you start again in the middle of a bar, it'll still be in sync, but the pattern you set with the dividers may not be exactly what you get from the gate outputs. Internally, START, CONT and STOP are OR-gated with the divider stages' RESET inputs. This worked fine with a K2000 and Pro-tools. It would be easy enough to disable one or more of these signals via a simple toggle switch if this is needed for another sequencer. I'll think about this some more..........
SPP recognition would require another 4-6 ICs I reckon.

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I could provide part kits for those who want that, if you, Dave and Matthias, agree on that.

That's a cool offer woody. Thanks for offering! I'm up for that, I'm sure Matthias will be fine with it too Smile

Diablojoy - I hadn't seen that line of MIDI utilities before - very useful stuff. I think a MIDI THRU is a pretty simple circuit. IIIRC, I've seen one circuit that uses an opto and a bunch of resistors to drive up to 8 or so outputs. I'll have a look and see if I can find it......

cheers,
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

diablojoy wrote:
midi solutions quadra thru
www.midisolutions.com/products.htm

or build one yourself:
http://m.bareille.free.fr/midithrubox/midithrubox.htm

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks matthias good link i hadn't seen that one before
and i have everything required to build already
amongst my parts drawers Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

+1 support for a PCB run

(have already expressed interest over at Muffs)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi all.

It looks like we may have a PCB run now if enough folks are interested Smile
http://electro-music.com/forum/post-332394.html#332394

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

pcb run for sure. i'd have 2. Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Dave,hi all,

having a DIN-sync out would be great. Do you have any idea of how to implement it?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Greg - I'll have some time to look into it after next weekend (busy 'til then) At first look, the RUN/STOP gate of DIN SYNC would need a flip flop - maybe a 4013 or perhaps a 4027, to make it latch high during play. The pulse length of the internal signal in the M2C will probably need lengthening too, as it is way less than 1mS in the M2C.
A good DIN-SYNC daughterboard design would ideally have a way to set pulse length, for use with different modules, say, between 1mS and up to 10mS. Any feedback or comments on this from DIN SYNC users out there is welcome! Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Dave,

Dave Kendall wrote:
Greg - I'll have some time to look into it after next weekend (busy 'til then)


Thanks lot,sounds good. Wink

Dave Kendall wrote:
Any feedback or comments on this from DIN SYNC users out there is welcome! Smile


Yes please. A nice layout for a simple Midi>Sync converter would be cool! This could be put on a piece of perfboard and mounted behind the M2C-frontpanel.

Any ideas anyone?

Please

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