Nord Modular Editor on OS X using wine

tinez · Joined: Aug 21, 2014 Posts: 9 Location: Poland, Katowice

The patch has officialy landed in wine. When you do your installation please skip steps 2 and 3. Cheers!

Hi everyrone. Since this is my first post - a short introduction. I play bass, piano and have a lot of love for synths. Professionally i'm a software developer.

I'm also a very happy owner of G1 since about 3 months. I used to run NMEditor using wine on linux. If you're not familiar with wine you can check their website http://winehq.org. It's not a virtual machine and it's not emulation - it's rewriting of win$ libraries on different operating systems. That means when you run NME on wine, you run it like a native OS X app.

I was pretty angry to find out that running NME on wine on OS X didn't work. It turned out, there was no sysex message handlers implemented in wines coreaudio driver. Two evenings later i have a patch and successfully run NME on wine on OS X Wink

I'm pretty sure that G2 editor will also work - I need some brave volunteers to check that Very Happy

Ok, here's what you gotta do to make things work:
1. install brew (http://brew.sh/), remember to run brew doctor and brew update afterwards
2. edit /usr/local/Library/Formula/wine.rb file in your favorite text editor (or you can just run "brew edit wine" in terminal)
3. find section that looks like this:

johann martinus · Joined: Sep 22, 2014 Posts: 1 Location: Austria

I have been searching for this solution for years!
works fine! in the beginning it didn't work (always lost connection).
then i disabled the midiclk on the midioutput of the midicard. now its stable and awesome.

thx again!!!

varice · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:45 pm Post subject:

to the electro-music forum johann martinus Exclamation

Congratulations on getting the G1 Editor to work on your OS X computer Exclamation

tinez · Joined: Aug 21, 2014 Posts: 9 Location: Poland, Katowice

Glad I could help! I thought more people had problem running g1 editor on OSX though. Then I would maybe try to upstream my patch to wine project so it would be merged into official version of application. But then again, if no one cares, why bother Wink

dc · Joined: Sep 30, 2014 Posts: 1 Location: chicago

this is amazing! works very well!

my micro mod had been sitting in storage for ages. happy to have it back in my set up.

thanks so much for the work, tinez.

- dc

snaakmans · Joined: Nov 13, 2014 Posts: 2 Location: den haag

Thanks for the walkthrough and patch! It works like a charm.

Nme seems to be working well, as far as i can see (with wine on os10.8.5)!
except connecting to the synth doesnt seem to happen.
It looks like my midi interface (midisport1x1) is being picked up by NME, though.

What i wonder, is this actually the patch functioning fine and is the problem in Modular Editor or my midi interface?
Any other experiences or clues?

Thanks for the great work!

tinez · Joined: Aug 21, 2014 Posts: 9 Location: Poland, Katowice

Someone else PMed me with similar issue. I've made him a check list. I'll just repaste it here Smile

1. make sure you have appropriate midi device selected in nord modular editor - go to "Setup->Midi" and choose your interface

2. did you modify wine.rb to include my patch? you can double check that by typing "cat /usr/local/Library/Formula/wine.rb | grep winecoreaudio_sysex.patch" in console. It should print out the url line.

3. did you "brew install wine" AFTER modyfing wine.rb? if you're not sure than run "brew remove wine && brew install wine" to reinstall wine

4. make sure you have your cables right (inserted to PC in/out ports of Nord), we all have bad days Wink

Everything should work out of the box. If your midi interface works with normal mac os x apps then there's no reason why it shouldn't work with wine.

cheers, tinez

snaakmans · Joined: Nov 13, 2014 Posts: 2 Location: den haag

Thanks for getting back on this..

I ran down the check list, everything seems to be in order.
Unfortunately though, no luck on "seeing" the modular though, it stays stuck on "still looking…".

I'm also trying other midi interfaces.
Until now, no luck on a 1x1 midisport, nor on my MOTU traveler's midi ports.

I remember from back in the day that you had to run NME in some kind of (WIN98?) compatibility mode, else it wouldn't be able to connect.
Any clue how this relates to operation using WINE?

Another thing, this might be completely normal though, just posting it to be sure.. I get a lot of these messages in the terminal:
fixme:midi:MIDIIn_MessageHandler Starting System Exclusive
fixme:midi:MIDIIn_MessageHandler Ending System Exclusive

Many thanks!

tinez · Joined: Aug 21, 2014 Posts: 9 Location: Poland, Katowice

If you can see this message in your terminal, then you don't have my patch Smile

That can mean two things - something went bad while patching wine.rb or something went wrong in the middle of patching wine sources using my patch. Could you please PM me your wine.rb file? I wont have access to my mac for a couple of days so I gotta rely on your feedback to fix that Wink

tinez · Joined: Aug 21, 2014 Posts: 9 Location: Poland, Katowice

ok, after some pms with snaakmans we've figured out the problem. if you have installed wine, but somehow it didn't work, please remove it using "brew remove wine" and then install using "brew install --build-from-source wine" command. it turns out homebrew had some precompiled versions of wine available so my patch have never been added to the binary.

jonah · Joined: Sep 29, 2012 Posts: 16 Location: us

oh wow.

i hope this works for me, i'll have to try it later today.

but just as exciting to me, am i right in thinking this will let anything wine work with sysex, like sound diver!

i'm sure there's even more useful sysex stuff i've forgotten about because it's been so long since i could use it...it's funny i wonder in 20 years how much of the software i run will be 30+ years old. Smile

imo this should definitely be part of the official version. Smile

thanks for the effort and sharing!

mattp · Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:14 am Post subject:

Thank you so much that's fantastic. Works a treat.

I did have to download and install https://xquartz.macosforge.org

But I was prompted to do that and the whole process was so easy.

jonah · Joined: Sep 29, 2012 Posts: 16 Location: us

never mind, source forge glitch, fixed. installing now. Smile

secretkillerofnames · Joined: Mar 25, 2013 Posts: 65 Location: Brisbane

Awesome!
Tried this with the "build-from-source" command and it looks to be working great!
Thanks very much! Very Happy

Is there a way to create a shortcut for this to execute from Finder - as opposed to using Terminal every time?

donpachi · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:56 am Post subject:

Working nicely on 10.9.5!
Thank you tinez Cool

mattp · Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:23 am Post subject:

Also found using the same wine based method I was able to get the Nord Modular G2 Demo http://www.nordkeyboards.com/downloads/legacy/nord-modular-g2 working and passing audio in to Ableton Live using Soundflower https://github.com/RogueAmoeba/Soundflower

secretkillerofnames · Joined: Mar 25, 2013 Posts: 65 Location: Brisbane

Joergen · Joined: Jan 05, 2015 Posts: 1 Location: Denmark

I cant find the part in the wine.rb file ? I'm running yosemite if that should help out.

Can anyone send me their edited wine.rb file if that's even possible to copy ?

Argh, I've been struggling all day to connect to my "new" micro modular. Sad

Please help !

perrointel · Joined: Jan 08, 2015 Posts: 1 Location: Barcelona

Thanks, thanks, and thanks. This patch really works. I have problems with my tc electronic (lost connection) but works fine with m-audio.

Thankx tinez for your help! Nice guy!

Redline · Joined: Nov 07, 2013 Posts: 33 Location: UK

Not having much luck with this. Running this in the terminal:

ruby -e "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install)"

Gives me:

-bash: curl: command not found
-bash: ruby: command not found

This is under Yosemite 10.10.2 with Xcode and Qwartz loaded. Any suggestions?

(Never touch terminal usually so bound to be a noob error...)

tinez · Joined: Aug 21, 2014 Posts: 9 Location: Poland, Katowice

a quick google shows this post
http://coolestguidesontheplanet.com/installing-homebrew-os-x-yosemite-10-10-package-manager-unix-apps/
which says to install xcode and command line tools first. hmmm i'm pretty sure mavericks came with curl and ruby preinstalled... but that was almost a year ago, i can be wrong.

Redline · Joined: Nov 07, 2013 Posts: 33 Location: UK

Thanks for this, seems like my terminal isn't working for some reason. Even the whoami command gives me:

-bash: whoami: command not found

Just a thought tinez but would it be possible for you to create a Winebottled app of the NM editor with this sysex fix in place? Would be great for noobs like me with zero terminal experience.

marduk · Joined: Feb 25, 2015 Posts: 7 Location: E-stonea

Would the sysex patch work for Sound Diver too?
That'd be just awesomes!

tinez · Joined: Aug 21, 2014 Posts: 9 Location: Poland, Katowice

Redline - i've never packaged any app using brew before and i don't think it's the right direction to go. I've finally pulled myself together and posted it to winehq. I hope it will be upstreamed to official version, i will let you know Smile

marduk - never heard about that software before. Just googled it and, as far as i understand, its job is to edit hardware synth patches using midi? If so, there's a big chance that it will work. Please let us know!

Cheers, tinez

marduk · Joined: Feb 25, 2015 Posts: 7 Location: E-stonea

If only I could get that brewing thing working (I'm not too familiar w. compiling stuff, so errors). I previously ran wine with winebottler but due to nonworking sysex the SoundDiver was useless..