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Keyboard Hold woes
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Keyboard Hold woes
Subject description: how to make a multi-slot keyboard hold control
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Hi y'all,

Been futzing with this for a while and read some posts and am stuck.

Keyboard hold (CC# 18) seems to be a very finicky control. See attached patch, where I've rather clumsily put together a toggle switch that sends either 0 or 127 out on CC 18.

Well, no matter how I set the CtrlSend module's send channel -- this, the current midi channel, the slot, other slots, other channels -- keyboard hold will not respond.

I've tried it on other CC#s, like volume, octave -- they all work like a charm.

Now here's the tripper: if I have my keyboard hooked up in and out to my computer with a midi recorder, record-enabled, so it's echoing back -- it works (on the channel that the midi recorder is echoing back on).

The reason I'm creating this is I want a master keyboard hold that I can point at other slots. I've already given up on trying to somehow "capture" the keyboard hold button itself, so I was trying this way using a switch. Nothing worky. Helpy?

Thanks,
Stuart


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I used CC64 for hold which works but has a problem. If you load a new patch while the CC is high, that slot gets stuck on hold till a power reset or CC64,0 is sent.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: sustain != hold Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

g2ian wrote:
I used CC64 for hold which works but has a problem. If you load a new patch while the CC is high, that slot gets stuck on hold till a power reset or CC64,0 is sent.


That is the same as holding the sustain pedal, no?

My love for keyboard hold comes from the fact that held notes reset at the next non-connected note; sustain would just hold everything until I reset the sustain setting.

I wonder what Clavia's thinking was behind this implementation of keyboard hold. It's a strange function to begin with and very hard to duplicate via programming, whereas I've been able to get poly/mono switching, sustain (release modulation) and other things by hacking away with the editor. Maybe I'll give it another shot ...
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