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some tracks I made
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I've been experimenting with Spoken Word style and Sprechstimme vocal technique and basically what I'm trying to practice is to take recordings of voices and compose the music behind it.
These are my first recordings, I found this CC-licensed vocal samples from the net and made the music xD Tell me what you think, it's in three parts the second part is an algorithmic composition(the harpsichord and other sounds)/ mixed with some functions and some processed voices of me singing and stuff like that xD
tell me what you think, I may make an EP and release it under CCL or free art license. Copyrighted xD
lady has something to say
The first part I tried to make it sound like some sort of nu-jazz/philip glass minimalism ;D
algorithmic canon
Algorithmic canon balbalbalabla ;O
man has something to say
I don't know what was I thinking when I made this xD
btw, if you don't see the player it's because IE7 cannot render google mp3 player(I wonder why?) ...
bafmsbc.vmcv.,mnxc.mc,cmcmcmcmc,cxnv,
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject:
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Yeah I've been told that one before xD. It's intentional, for example in the first part I use 15/16 time signature in some parts to "trip it out".
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I like them, especially the jazzy/vocal thingies (1st and third). They keep going, but there is variation enough to keep it interesting.
/Stefan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:55 am Post subject:
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even "trippier" is listening to the 3 of them at the same time 
Good job Gabriel
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:42 am Post subject:
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| Antimon wrote: | I like them, especially the jazzy/vocal thingies (1st and third).
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I agree, for the second one most of it was computer generated by some cheesy algorithm I made 
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They keep going, but there is variation enough to keep it interesting.
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Yeah, I tried to give them a minimalistic sense 
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:43 am Post subject:
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| seraph wrote: |
even "trippier" is listening to the 3 of them at the same time
Good job Gabriel |
it's 3 times trippier
thanks! |
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| I can't get these to play do I need an update for quicktime or something? |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:19 am Post subject:
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| destroyifyer wrote: | | I can't get these to play do I need an update for quicktime or something? |
I was using google's mp3 player and IE7 has problems rendering it. But I embedded the files using another player should work now . |
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The player is working extremely badly on my Mac. I've tried both Safari and Firefox, both with all the latest updates, no add-ons. It plays a few seconds, then stops.
The first couple of seconds are cool, would like to hear more. Do you have any other way to listen?
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| dewdrop_world wrote: | The player is working extremely badly on my Mac. I've tried both Safari and Firefox, both with all the latest updates, no add-ons. It plays a few seconds, then stops.
The first couple of seconds are cool, would like to hear more. Do you have any other way to listen?
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Hmm, worked ok on my Mac/Safari. Just stuttered a bit in the beginning.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject:
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| dewdrop_world wrote: | The player is working extremely badly on my Mac. I've tried both Safari and Firefox, both with all the latest updates, no add-ons. It plays a few seconds, then stops.
The first couple of seconds are cool, would like to hear more. Do you have any other way to listen?
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Cool, I'd like to listen to your opinion. I just uploaded them to the electro-music server. |
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Hey Gabriel,
I finally got a chance to listen to these. Nice work!
Particularly strong, I think, is the pacing of the (slower) harmonic motion against the busier surface texture in the "... has something to say" pieces. The chords fit right in the pocket, too. For my own curiosity -- are the changes preprogrammed (purely deterministic), totally random or controlled by some other algorithm?
The harmonic vocabulary reminds me a bit of Paul Lansky's Idle Chatter pieces -- I mean that as a compliment.
The method of "ornamenting" notes in the canon with the spooky synth sounds is also really successful, though I wished that the canon would come to the foreground (maybe even sounding by itself without the background sounds) once or twice for more textural variety.
One of the really hard things in algorithmic composition is control over form. I don't have good code structures yet to generate large-scale form algorithmically -- currently I leave that to control manually while performing. These 3 pieces avoid the question altogether by sticking to one texture throughout (except "man has...," which comes to a definitive conclusion). Of course not every piece needs a whole lot of formal variety -- just something to think about for the future.
Thanks for sharing these -- I really enjoyed them!
James
PS I'm curious, how do you do your sound rendering? What language do you use for the algorithms?
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i didnt get it. thats in a way normal, i guess. there were some phrases that made sense for my musical "taste", and i enjoyed them - but the majority of your work just went by me without even saying hello. is that a more mathematical kind of connoisseurdom? does it take time to really enjoy that? (i consider time to be of some importance since it took me years to enjoy hofstaedter and deleuze)
damn. i wanted to re-listen, but gopt errors galore.
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| abreaktor wrote: | | i didnt get it. thats in a way normal, i guess. there were some phrases that made sense for my musical "taste", and i enjoyed them - but the majority of your work just went by me without even saying hello. |
I think that's related to my comments about form. Form is what makes a piece say hello, and goodbye, and more stuff in between.
One of the most important things I learned from my composition professor in grad school is the importance of punctuating the music with arrival points that can turn the piece in a different direction quickly (or even not so quickly). He recognized that I had a tendency to write gradual transitions between one texture, or section, and the next. But sometimes, what you really need is a bold, dramatic turn.
Another issue (and this is a weakness in my music too) is sonic variety. It takes so much work to come up with a really finely tuned sound that I tend to run the sounds possibly longer than I should.
By the way, you can download the attachments to your hard drive by dragging the "download" links into the downloaded files window in Safari or Firefox.
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Interesting style
Vocals combined with free jazz
Interesting !
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I'm sorry for taking so long, I just finished final exams today.
| dewdrop_world wrote: | | Particularly strong, I think, is the pacing of the (slower) harmonic motion against the busier surface texture in the "... has something to say" pieces. The chords fit right in the pocket, too. For my own curiosity -- are the changes preprogrammed (purely deterministic), totally random or controlled by some other algorithm? |
The “has something to say” pieces are more like computer-assisted compositions rather than computer generated so there is a lot more human intervention, that’s why it may sound that they just fit in.
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The harmonic vocabulary reminds me a bit of Paul Lansky's Idle Chatter pieces -- I mean that as a compliment. |
Cool, I’ll definitely check it out.
| dewdrop_world wrote: | | The method of "ornamenting" notes in the canon with the spooky synth sounds is also really successful, though I wished that the canon would come to the foreground (maybe even sounding by itself without the background sounds) once or twice for more textural variety. |
Yeah, I completely agree. Hearing the canon alone I sensed it as drained so that’s why I added the other functions, sounds etc … but hey it’s experimental music, I’m just exploring some pathways.
| dewdrop_world wrote: | | One of the really hard things in algorithmic composition is control over form. I don't have good code structures yet to generate large-scale form algorithmically -- currently I leave that to control manually while performing. These 3 pieces avoid the question altogether by sticking to one texture throughout (except "man has...," which comes to a definitive conclusion). Of course not every piece needs a whole lot of formal variety -- just something to think about for the future. |
Cool, thanks a lot for your comment I really found it helpful and appreciate it! Especially since I’m in a learning face right now, I really like to hear people’s opinions and more when they have a concrete point.
| dewdrop_world wrote: | | PS I'm curious, how do you do your sound rendering? What language do you use for the algorithms? |
For my algorithmic music I use my own java pseudo/framework, I’m thinking on writing an algorithmic music framework. The sound rendering is done via VST. |
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| abreaktor wrote: | i didnt get it. thats in a way normal, i guess. there were some phrases that made sense for my musical "taste", and i enjoyed them - but the majority of your work just went by me without even saying hello. is that a more mathematical kind of connoisseurdom? does it take time to really enjoy that? (i consider time to be of some importance since it took me years to enjoy hofstaedter and deleuze)
damn. i wanted to re-listen, but gopt errors galore. |
Well first of all, these are not serious pieces they are more like me experimenting new tools, sounds, structures etc… (I’ve been doing electronic music for less than a year). You talk about taste. What is taste? Taste according to Levitin in his book “This is your brain on music”, comes from how our brain structures music, what we listened as newborns and influences from close people. Taste is your enemy. Music is not necessarily made to be enjoyed; people are enslaved on taste and ideas on how music should be… music should be free and subjective … taste is a barrier. Taste is bad, very very bad, taste is evil:P … ok I’m exaggerating a byte, but you get my point. Don’t worry if you do not “get” my music actually very few people actually “enjoy it”, I don’t expect my music to be an mtv hit or formulistic music, I’m just making music mainly because it’s something I really like to do (and it’s a way for me to glorify the ostrich that gives it to me) … if people like it cool, if people don’t like it also cool with me. Thanks for your comment . |
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| kara wrote: | Interesting style
Vocals combined with free jazz
Interesting !
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Merci mille fois |
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Thanks a lot 
woah, I posted this music in 2008, time flies! |
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thanks Mjr
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