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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:31 pm    Post subject: Muff's is down hard Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Calendar Event: April 21, 2019

We are likely to see some influx over here, Muff's is down again, this time not even showing the usual signs of life. Muff's admins have posted to FB to say that it's related to the bills for the site, and they are trying to resolve it as expeditiously as possible. However, it's reached a point where some people are fed up and looking for "a new home". Hopefully by pointing them here we won't overload this site Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

well, there goes the neighbourhood, I hope they don't bring their cats. Laughing

I'll get some extra balloons party!


also: http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-70939.html

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It's not dead .. it's sleeping Shocked

Anyways reading up on it people from MW seem more interested to start something anew .. or join some other platforms rather than coming back here (where at least some of 'm started).

But what PHOBoS said ... the party! 's and the welcome 's are ready Cool

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also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If they are down for good, perhaps due to financial reasons, perhaps someone with contacts over there (admins) can suggest they bundle up the last complete version and see if the WayBackMachine at Internet Archives (archive.org) is interested in having the final version.

But maybe they are just "sleeping" as suggested by Blue Hell and/or closed pending a major "Grand Re-Opening" (new and improved website, etc.).

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

MW is down for financial reasons, which I dont understand.
It was said that because MW refused ads (and thus income generated by ads) it was very expensive, but I dont see ads on EM and I never hear anything about money (of the lack thereof) on this forum..
And they had an extensive number of patreon backers.
There is also a Dutch synth forum, and they have ads, and very intrusive I must say...

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

But this forum has a mecenas .. basically howard giving his pension away ... you can always donate of course .. there is a donate thingie on the front page.

Ads didnt bring in very much money BTW, they were tried for a while, but not worth the trouble.

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also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Grumble wrote:
It was said that because MW refused ads (and thus income generated by ads) it was very expensive...

Just a guess: Maybe if the owner has traditionally had no interest in running the site on an ad-based income model, perhaps it is down pending some sort of change with plans to return (different income model, sale to another party, any of a number of a zillion possibilities, etc.) based on re-organization, negotiations, etc. Pure speculation. Hmmmmmm.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Maybe if the owner has traditionally had no interest in running the site on an ad-based income model

That is exactly true.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
howard giving his pension away ... you can always donate of course .. there is a donate thingie on the front page.


...good that you mentioned this… Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The stated expenses for running MW seem exorbitant to a few of us who have been in the IT industry for a while. There may be factors leading to that which we don't recognize, but

1) not taking ads only cuts of a revenue stream, it doesn't increase the cost of running the site. There has been a Patreon and various donations which together were intended to cover the costs.

2) by several reports it was not too long ago that the costs should have been totally taken care of, and not just up to date, but for at least some time into the future -- and yet now we are told that the bills are again months behind.

It remains to be seen how it will shake out, but this is not a deliberate "I'm going down to revise my business model" in any case.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Mike McGrath has passed away.
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/topic-216474.html
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That is the worst outcome of this debacle... Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

btw, its back...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that's very sad to hear Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that is very sad indeed Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

https://youtu.be/Zn7Fl8_V934





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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sorry to hear the sad news.
Thanks for posting the video, Rob.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

RIP Mike. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you haven't been over to MW lately...

The site's been working fine generally but search is out. Other than a big "Information" box plastered on the heading, there's little to be learned about what comes next. Behind the scenes stuff is appropriately behind the scenes and the Announcements section of the forum has been quiet.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Search has been out for a while before this last mess and then tragedy.

Some searching can be done using site:muffwiggler.com via google.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It seems to be down again. Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

any insights about the why and how long? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Apparently it's much the same as last time. There are still unresolved issues and people trying to resolve them. Must be exasperating for all involved.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it’s back Rolling Eyes
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