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ScaleQuantizer resets notes when patch changed?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:22 pm    Post subject: ScaleQuantizer resets notes when patch changed? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've noticed that the selected notes of the ScaleQuantizer reset to the default for the selected scale when you change a patch while it's running, for example by adding or deleting a module, connecting a cable, etc.

Seems like a bug?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I know ... Rolling Eyes

It is not exactly a feature indeed .. but with the current way patches are being loaded and saved this is hard to avoid (and with structural changes on the patch the patch is written and read back in the same way as when it would be written to and read from a file).

Thing is the information is in two places, in the set of buttons and in the selected preset. The preset happens to be written to the patch last so it will be read in as the last thing as well .. and so it will override the button settings.

This is not the only module that has/had such issues, made a kludge at some stage to get things right with the ranges that some modules have.

I currently have no control over the write order, or rather it is the order in which a module's sub controls had originally been added to the module ... I'll think about this (again) ... but will not hurry to make yet another kludge for issues like these.

For now, it might be possible to use the NoteQuantizer. Although it does not have the exact same features, some of those can easily be patched. Like chaining is just addition and changes can be detected with the ChangeDetector module. It will not have the Inv output then, and of course there is no dynamic scale selection.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked

Actually it was quite easy to fix it with a manual edit of the DFM file to change the creation order ...

So fixed it ... https://bluehell.nl/blogje/

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice! Thanks jan.

However the new download has the same behavior -- can you confirm the new exe is at the link?

Come to think of it it would be handy to have a build number of some sort viewable when Wren is running...is there anything like that?

edit: found it in general setup, and I'm running the 6.6 version... maybe I need to delete some file first?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hmm .. it stopped working here too Shocked Laughing

odd.

edit: oops .. did not properly test it .. when the patch is not running it /seems/ to work .. but once it runs it does not .. back to the drawing board then ... sorry.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Turns out to be a bit harder than expected .. I have a partial solution .. read up at https://bluehell.nl/blogje/forums.html/2021/06/08/bug-in-scalequantizer-revisited/

The thing can get locked now in a custom scale (although there is an escape for it that is not too hard), selecting another preset will not get you out (but selecting C and C# will) ... yet .. all other functionality seems ok.

Will tinker a bit more Rolling Eyes but it does not fit very well into the model .. to have indicators to be selectors as well .. the note buttons as selectors, and the indicators for when a preset is selected.

I just should have made the buttons read only Laughing

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