Apple drops IBM PowerPC line for Intel chips

Kassen · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:19 pm Post subject:

Sure, the latest once for Live5 are here;
http://www.ableton.com/forum/topic-24715.html

I hadn't seen those yet and was basing my claims on the test of Live4 but it seems that nothing has changed much with high end Mac's scoring around the performance level of older/ budget IBM compatibles.

This means that even if you can afford a Mac finantially; Live users can't afford the performance hit.

To be clear; that is just one application and I'm not claiming Mac's generally are slower then PC's for everything, nor am I claiming all Mac users are as retarded as those I encountered at parties, juxst explaining why it's not the right machine for me.

elektro80 · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject:

In this case this is about how they write and compile the code.

The same problem can be seen in Adobe Bridge. But in that case it runs at 1/200 the speed of what 30 USD shareware apps do ( and those developers know how to use XCODE and they mostly follow the Apple developer guidelines 1:1.) That said, the Adobe CS2 suite is a disaster. Yes, they do have managed to sort out some bugs, but this time they really have shown that they have no idea whatsoever about workflows in the graphics industry. The individual apps are working fine, but the suite is near useless in a busy production enviroment. Main thing about why we use CS2 is that Adobe has at least shown some interest in improving and developing their software products. QXP is far worse. This has of course nothing to do about the platforms. CS2 is more or less the same on mac and pc.

Photoshp is quite OK on the mac and it handles insanely huge files better on a mac.

gsga · Joined: Jul 22, 2004 Posts: 267 Location: allentown, pa

Er, someone kill this thread now. Please.

Kassen, you've alienated Mac users and 'retarded' citizens in one fell swoop. Nice work. Shocked

Let's talk about puppies. Everyone likes puppies! Discuss.

seraph · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:43 pm Post subject:

I'm a Mac user and many times I've wondered if I'm retarted, but I'm not alienated. What's the big deal? I don't think Kassen is particularly out-of-line. I guess he is hitting a nerve here, but IMHO if your nerves are getting zapped, then disconnect your emotions from the brand of computer you use.

We have avoided this topic on electro-music.com. Can our mutual love of the music enable us to discuss the relate merits and drawbacks for the computer we use? I hope so.

dasz

paul e. · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject:

paul e. · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject:

dmosc · Joined: Jun 23, 2003 Posts: 298

This software debate is very interresting and all but it doesn't ammount to a hill of beans. When it comes down to it, the main reason I would never even consider a mac is hardware. The hardware you get when you buy a mac is not up to par with the hardware you get when you buy a PC. Benchmarks don't lie.

I'll leave you all to the religious debate over which user interface is less annoying.

gsga · Joined: Jul 22, 2004 Posts: 267 Location: allentown, pa

seraph · Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:43 pm Post subject:

Apple launches Intel transition resource site

http://developer.apple.com/transition/

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:57 am Post subject:

I have a mini. It is basically a Powebook in disguise.

v-un-v · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:25 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:32 am Post subject:

The mac mini is a wonderful concept. I hear they are prototyping a G5 mini now.

v-un-v · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:35 am Post subject:

Kassen · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:32 am Post subject:

Jason · Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject:

Still with this topic? lol No I have nothing useful to add......
Hahahahaha.
Oh yes , got a mac I like it , got a PC ? OK I like it....
semantics and opinions anyone? Twisted Evil