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dasz
Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1644 Location: victoria, canada
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jksuperstar
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject:
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I suppose "worked correctly" is/was subjective, but I fully agree with you on this. It is difficult for live improvisation when the beat gets unsyncronized, unintentionally, undoubtedly!!! |
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dasz
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject:
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Subjective? I would say not. It's common practise for any groove box I have worked with. And consistent with NM1.
Quote: | It is difficult for live improvisation when the beat gets unsyncronized, unintentionally, undoubtedly!!! |
Totally, the G2 is supposed to be more Live oriented than Papa Nord (NM1). Especially after you read the marketing line which tells us why it is so much better than NM1
http://clavia.com/products/nordmodular/index.htm
These little glitches get in the way (esp since one cannot group the quick solution into a subpatch)
/Dasz
ps.: I have a sentimental attachment to the Colorado Avalanche hockey team-- esp "Burnaby" Joe Sakic (http://www.coloradoavalanche.com, and Mr. Steve Moore for suffering such an underhanded blow thanks to Todd PooToosey (Bertuzzi) http://canucks.com/theteam/roster.asp?sectionID=23&id=20#career ) |
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selvmarcus
Joined: Feb 08, 2006 Posts: 121 Location: Berlin, Germany
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject:
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It´s strange these things didn´t get fixed during so many years.
Is it really the missing menpower at clavia?
Another example: Why is it I cannot define or use some
keyboard shortcuts for module type insertion?
Would be so much faster than to go through the menus all the time.
Why no multiples module or any place to put one of my patchcords somewhere while exchanging two of them? Always have to go again...
Sorry, OT here.
Still a great product and I am allover very happy with it.
Fun and research for years to come. Good buy.
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dasz
Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1644 Location: victoria, canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject:
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Still a great product and I am allover very happy with it.
Fun and research for years to come. Good buy. |
Isn't that enough for now? Remeber Clavia is a Small Company! Not many people doing s/w or h/w stuff (they are not Roland!!!)
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dasz
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject:
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I learned a lot during NAMM '06 about really small companies -- they seem to be doing all the cool stuff, funny isn't it? The big guys just copy the small guys.
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Unfed
Joined: May 11, 2004 Posts: 200 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:29 am Post subject:
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thank you for coming up with this, Dasz! i loved the fact that you could change the number of steps on the fly, but was quickly disappointed to find that it didn't work quite right. thus, wasn't able to make use of it really at all. this should be a great help.
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These little glitches get in the way (esp since one cannot group the quick solution into a subpatch) |
could you explain why this is? (maybe it'll make sense to me when i actually play around with it...) _________________ SoundCloud |
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Kassen
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Joined: Jul 06, 2004 Posts: 7678 Location: The Hague, NL
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:48 am Post subject:
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jksuperstar wrote: | I suppose "worked correctly" is/was subjective, but I fully agree with you on this. It is difficult for live improvisation when the beat gets unsyncronized, unintentionally, undoubtedly!!! |
I don't think it's that subjective. The sequencers come with a reset input so it's much easier to have a extra reset patched in manually then it is to prevent it from resetting.
That being said; the G2 has the lookup table sequencers and those enable you to define your own "correct behaviour". With those you can for example have the "last step" parameter outside of the sequencer module and only update that parameter once in -say- every 8 bars together with a global reset of all sequencers, that would make it all ableton style. In the NM you can do the same if you'd like to but it'd work differently.
To me the bigest thing is defining for yourself what "correct" is for any given situation, once you have that you can probably build it regardless of what the modules do per default. _________________ Kassen |
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dasz
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:50 am Post subject:
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good point about the ctrl sequencer, Kassen.
I used a solution like it as well, but the circut was bulkier than the little reset step in the event sequencer.
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could you explain why this is? (maybe it'll make sense to me when i actually play around with it...) |
unfed, I was stating that it is too bad we cannot create subpatches (like in reaktor). This way, this little circuit could have been turned into a "module".
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blue hell
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dasz
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject:
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Jan,
In my patch solution, of course you realize that if the current step is above the loop length step you just changed to, your sequence will play until step 16. One can think of this as a bug / feature.
I like the x0x school of thinking -- bug or feature?
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blue hell
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:42 pm Post subject:
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dasz wrote: | of course you realize |
Guess not actually .. I've no clue as to what you are talking about ... did I overlook something, if so please be more specific ? _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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dasz
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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:59 am Post subject:
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Well, if the current step was 5 and the loop reset was at step 12. then changing the loop length to 4, would not reset the sequence, since we were on step 5 and this is past the loop reset step. You'd expect the sequencer to check for loop point when it jumps to new step.
This is why the voltage/ctrl sequencer is better for the task. But for quick fix, this solution is good.
My posted ideas may not be perfect, nor are they indended to be. They are a start for others, which why I am happy Jan modded this patch!
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dasz
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3phase
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dasz
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject:
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Oh yeah, use the clock div is a great solution.
It's cool I tried some patches here, cuz they solved a problem I had in a different type of patch.
/Dasz |
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