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jamos

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elektro80
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject:
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Right! Frankly, MIDI is still promising, I am sure it will be a hot thing someday, but syncing devices together was far more predictable in the old days. The big problem with midi is that it hasn´t been updated and turned into an object oriented protocol. It should have been possible to name each device in your midi enviroment, then create sync scenes for each song and program both tight and sloppy sync scenarios. It should be possible to embed rules and subprograms. These sould be possible to send to a master , travel down the chain or interact or whatever.
Fact is that MIDI is a farce.
You can do a lot with various mature DAWs, but that doesn´t really solve much.
I am sure MIDI was invented by DALEKS. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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jksuperstar

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject:
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Just remembered, have you tried Midi CC80 on the global channel? Should control start/stop. Maybe you can force it after the real master clock has started. |
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jamos

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject:
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elektro80 wrote: | Right! Frankly, MIDI is still promising, I am sure it will be a hot thing someday, but syncing devices together was far more predictable in the old days. The big problem with midi is that it hasn´t been updated and turned into an object oriented protocol. It should have been possible to name each device in your midi enviroment, then create sync scenes for each song and program both tight and sloppy sync scenarios. It should be possible to embed rules and subprograms. These sould be possible to send to a master , travel down the chain or interact or whatever.
Fact is that MIDI is a farce.
You can do a lot with various mature DAWs, but that doesn´t really solve much.
I am sure MIDI was invented by DALEKS. |
Wow. Not sure I understand that at all.
Making MIDI object-oriented would be a mess; I'm not even sure it applies. Naming devices, settng scenes (a misnomer) embedding rules.. all those would just make it more complicated, not more reliable. Actually.. the entire MI industry as a whole does not have a good track record for making things easy to use, or reliable, or even intuitive; MIDI is probably a good example of that. |
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jamos

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject:
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jksuperstar wrote: | Just remembered, have you tried Midi CC80 on the global channel? Should control start/stop. Maybe you can force it after the real master clock has started. |
Yup; tried that; no joy. |
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elektro80
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject:
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jamos wrote: | jksuperstar wrote: | Just remembered, have you tried Midi CC80 on the global channel? Should control start/stop. Maybe you can force it after the real master clock has started. |
Yup; tried that; no joy. |
I told you! DALEKS! _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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jksuperstar

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject:
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Considering MIDI was developed prior to 1983, long before networks ditched the token ring concept, or TCP/IP even existed. Considering microcontrollers weren't exactly plentiful back then, it's a fairly decent standard.
The only surprise, is that it hasn't been replaced. I like OSC, which has everything you want Stein, just no big support yet. |
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