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onosendai
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grimley
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intoxicat
Joined: Jul 05, 2006 Posts: 32 Location: uk
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:18 am Post subject:
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use a tracker, with samples - like buzz for instance |
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slave to this
Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 93 Location: nyc
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:45 am Post subject:
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you could do it manually if that is what you mean by natural. try triggering the gate of your 'glitch' sound with a knob-assigned clock sync'd lfo. i think your initial idea is interesting though. |
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monobass
Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 275 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject:
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You're using the wrong tools to achieve this effect, sure it's an interesting exercise but you're just not going to get the funky results you get by doing it by hand, aseembling PIECE by PIECE
That's why aphexs edits stand head and shoulders above the average breakcore dross. There's no easy way out _________________ Steve |
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slave to this
Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 93 Location: nyc
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:10 am Post subject:
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try creating a triggering system in the g2 for NI's battery that does that "piece by piece" method of working with the way it triggers short little bleeps and blurps at high speeds. at least you could do all that then copy and paste together what you like for shortcut purposes perhaps?
but yeah, you're right steve. |
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astroid power-up!
Joined: Mar 23, 2004 Posts: 334
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Jason
Joined: Aug 12, 2004 Posts: 466 Location: Los Angeles, CA. USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject:
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perhaps you speak of granular synthesis?
These effects are utilized extensively for stuttering effects...
Just a thought |
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Joe Misra
Joined: Jul 25, 2005 Posts: 29 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject:
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I don't have any proof that Aphex uses an MPC, but after I got an MPC1k I begain to suspect a lot of aphex twin's retriggering effects may just be excessive use of the 'note repeat' function (which is present on all models I believe), though I imagine Bucephalus Bouncing Ball might have been something else... _________________ eerik inpuj sound - http://www.inpuj.net/ |
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astroid power-up!
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject:
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there are tons of methods for generating the same kinds of rolls.
software/vst: buffer override, dblue glitch, beat repeat (in ableton), and several others which do a kind of buffer resampling
in a wave editor, you'd just chop little bits together, maybe put a volume envelope on it or some pitch shifting to make it sound more/less natural.
you can tweak delays to do the same kind of thing, by putting the feedback very high on a transient and then futzing with the delay time.
the envelope retrigger effect tends to sound more computer-y, algorithmic, like autechre and richard devine.
there's something else where you can "scrub" through a waveform (if you use something like reaktor, max/msp, grm freezer, a bunch of freeware loopers or ableton's simpler plugin). you make the window large enough to see a small part of the beat and then move over a transient, it does something like that.
another free vst to check out is called "livecut".
but steve is right, to do aphex style edits, you're most likely looking at doing it by hand, in a wave editor like cubase.
edit: and hardware. older hardware can be tweaked to do some of these rolls. _________________ Astroid Power-Up!: "googleplex" available at:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/googleplex |
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W.T.
Joined: Jul 11, 2004 Posts: 272 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject:
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I read that afx uses Protools to cut up the Drux album, kick a** album by the way! |
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Joe Misra
Joined: Jul 25, 2005 Posts: 29 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject:
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If we're just listing ways of doing this, you can also acheive it using logic audio's environment, using the midi delay and arpeggiator. _________________ eerik inpuj sound - http://www.inpuj.net/ |
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