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Wild Zebra



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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What does C3 2n9 do in the crackling. After a quick check by bugbrand on my perfboard layout(if you can call it that) It's been said I did it right, (YEH) but I was curious about C3 cause I used a 2n2. I reckon it wasn't enough difference to make a difference, but what do I know. Also the added electro cap for the optional led. Don't you normally add a limiting resistor? What is the purpose of the cap? Just wanting to know.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

if anyone is interested, i've done a layout for the cracklebox. it's here: http://geocities.com/worthekik/crackle.html

i haven't been able to test it yet, so maybe someone can help me verify it. either way, check out the rest of the site also, if you want. i don't really care. thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I not an expert, but I thought it was bad to have an out jack to amp. W/O having some sort of transformer thingy like bugbrand did.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that output needs to go directly to 8ohm speaker (small).
but you can always mod it whit bugs instructions

thanks for posting the layout.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yeah, it should work fine with just an 8 ohm for now.

i'll make another layout with bugbrand's additions. possibly a switch with the headphone or ouput jack that connects bugbrand's addition when something is plugged in.

that brings me to a question: how would bugbrand's addition work with an 8 ohm speaker? just curious because it would be nice to not have to make it switch. thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Oh yeh THANKS, yet to try Bancika's layout program. Gotta get my computer hooked up at home. The first thing I was going to try was a Cracklebox. fixin to make that passive mixer an your site for all my battery operated noise boxes. Was going to do the one on general guitar gadgets, but fewer parts means less money!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

choklitlove wrote:
if anyone is interested, i've done a layout for the cracklebox. it's here: http://geocities.com/worthekik/crackle.html

i haven't been able to test it yet, so maybe someone can help me verify it. either way, check out the rest of the site also, if you want. i don't really care. thanks!


Hey there - I just posted a message on your site 'cos I think you've got the 14pin version pins muddled - check the LM709 datasheet 'cos its pins 1 & 2, 7 & 8, 13 & 14 that aren't connected.

I had problems taking an audio output instead of the speaker... I'd not have used a transformer otherwise! (('cos I don't know too much about them really...!...))

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

bugbrand-
thanks. i just went by the schematic and didn't know that the schematic used a different # of pins than what i had. i'll get on that as soon as i can.

since you made the output circuit, can you tell me what happens if a speaker is ran after it instead of the jack? i ask because it would really simplify what i want to do. thanks!


wild zebra-
let me know if you try to build anything from my layouts. if you have any comments or problems with them, you can use that form on each layout's page. then i could post your comment on that page to help others out. thanks for looking at the site!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

it's gonna take me redoing the layout to get the pins right. i'm taking it off the site, then i'll post here again with any updates. thanks for everyone's help!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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bugbrand-
thanks. i just went by the schematic and didn't know that the schematic used a different # of pins than what i had. i'll get on that as soon as i can.

since you made the output circuit, can you tell me what happens if a speaker is ran after it instead of the jack? i ask because it would really simplify what i want to do. thanks!


Speaker after the output buffer? Hmm, haven't tried it.. The way I've worked things is that I treat the output (pin6) of the 709 as the main output - then connect this to 1) the line-output buffer and 2) the transistors for speaker driving. I'd say put both parts onto the layout.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that's what i was planning on doing. i think i'll try the speaker after the buffer just to see how it reacts. thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Good eye Bugbrand. I used the 14 pin. Thanks to Dnny for sending the data sheet for it. So I didn't go and mess it all up. I was fiddlin with it last night. Lotta fun. My friends supposed to give me a hand-me-down digi cam tonight (hehehe I can take pics of my DIY stuff) So I'll post pics ASAP.

Dnny your gonna dig the "front panel" Lets just say Crapper-Box!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Alright my friend game me an old canon S110. Sweet now I can take some pics of projects! I was going to put it in something else then I figured the clock already had a speaker and some holes. Then a little photoshop fun with a crapper disection voila. I still need to cut the front panel so when the LED goes off it will illuminate the crapper.

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and a little vid



  

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shocked Laughing Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Wild Zebra wrote:

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DAMN COOL!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

that is really nice.
there are so many boxes around us that make perfect homes for little circuits like Cracklebox.

that panel whit led :
banana banana banana banana banana

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey thanks,
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there are so many boxes around us that make perfect homes for little circuits like Cracklebox

I was going to make a box, but hey 90 cents at the thrift store gets you a box with a speaker and predrilled holes. And yes there is a led, but I need to cut out the panel behind the clear plastic and put a sheet of cardstock or something, cause right now its just a little hole. We have a community festival here every year and I took some toys down and me and a buddy had a little noise jam. LONG LIVE BATTERY POWERED SYNTH CIRCUITS!!

crackle on!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

All right, be kind, here I am. Rockin my crackle box. My friends The Speedknobs went into the studio and I recorded some cracklebox on a hard rockin surf jam. When I get a copy of the CD I'll have to post it.
So here I am world!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

looking good! specially your double clocked arm:)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the pic. It's always great to see the faces of our members.

Surf rock and cracklebox. I would ike to hear that. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, can't wait to hear the Crackling Surf!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Always sportin' the double-swatch!

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Yes, can't wait to hear the Crackling Surf!

Thanks MOSC,
I'll post the toon as soon as I can guys, if it doesn't get cut from the album Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I've made many circuit bent instruments where I've simply connected the terminals from the speakers to audio out jacks that can be plugged into an amp and they seem to work fine and don't seem dangerous at all. How is the Cracklebox different ? What makes it dangerous to connect it this way ? Just curious. Is it something in the way the circuit is designed in it ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Don't know about the danger aspect but you get bad-sound-ness-mess if you connect an audio out direct to the speaker in this case... Don't quite know why, but you do.!.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm probably the only person that hates these boxes. We had a noise fest recently out of state that I performed at and there was this joker with one of those boxes asking if he could perform between our sets (he wasn't on the bill). Then he proceeded to squealy squak it and I told him no. Later on, while another act was playing I heard this guy blatantly messing around with this crackle box DURING their set. Talk about very rude and annoying. He's lucky he didn't get mauled.
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