Hi Y'all

bachus · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:06 pm Post subject: Hi Y'all

Hi Y'all,

I'm just returning to composition after many years away. I live on the Blue Ridge Parkway in NC. Studied music with Bill Hoskins in Jacksonville many years ago. Am kinda hoping to meet an old friend here.

Robert

elektro80 · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject:

Welcome Bachus! Very Happy

bachus · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject:

Hi elektro80! Thanks for the welcome.

As it turns out I think I know two people on this board, Jack "on the east coast" is one. He knows my music too--once said to me "Why do you insist on writing that tired old s**t!" Hi Jack! How are you! And yes I'm at it again!

Now if that other feller would show up I'd be happy as a pig in slop.

Cyxeris · Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 1125 Location: Louisville, KY

The slop is fresh and clean and delicious here.

bachus · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:12 pm Post subject:

Cyxeris · Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 1125 Location: Louisville, KY

I prefer fudge on my fugues. Wink

bachus · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:42 am Post subject:

To get serious. For me, counterpoint is the perfect intersection of intellect and emotion. I compose primarily by traditional methods so that I can completely control the flux of harmonic dissonance among voices. I compose in Sibelius. Then dump midi data into sonar, I have written a dozen or so CAL routines that allow me to apply mathematical forms to modulate the rhythm and dynamics of the music.

I am at the beginning stages of learning to use these tools having applied them to some short Bach organ pieces. I am about to dump into Sonar a Passacaglia I recently completed and begin the process of transforming the data into music.

This week I will assemble and new computer and upgrade my current one to run Vienna Symphonic Library for the realization of this piece.

Hope I am not punished for that last post.

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:23 am Post subject:

Well... if they will give you a spanking for this they will probably throw me in the gutter and then throw an elephant on top.. I still use pen and paper. I know I should probably learn all these new tools, but I haven´t quite found any which will actually help me to write what I want to write.

mosc · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:10 am Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:42 am Post subject:

Great place you have here mosc!

Actually I down loaded the pieces last night. I would have recognized the first as yours even if I hadn't already know it. You're the only person I know who would write a piece that playfully kicks sand in your face and then vagrantly turns serious. Good work.

I look forward to being a gadfly here Smile

bachus · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:56 am Post subject:

electro80,

I don't play well so Sibelius and Sonar (with my CAL extensions) are the only way I can realize my music. If music just pours out of you, Sibelius and that type of program would only slow you down (unfortunately I've never had that problem). If you play well then the only advantage of Sibelius (and that sort of program) is you can get a nice clean score printed out. And parts transposed as needed. Sibelius has what they call artificial intelligence routines that will add expression to the midi data but I find the results aesthetically useless. Again I add expression with my CAL routines beat-by-beat, measure-by-measure, phrase-by-phrase; a painstaking tedious process.

egw · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:12 pm Post subject:

I often think that today's performers adhere too rigidly to the static notation when playing the old music of Bach and others. I wonder if that's really the way they were played in the old days. Just because the notation is limited doesn't mean the performers were only allowed to play it exactly as written.

Writing it down seems to cast the music in stone, even if it may have originally been very dynamic and interactive.

bachus · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:21 pm Post subject:

mosc,

My remarks were on the piece for two oscillators. I had missed the IEMEI (sons of palindrome Smile

) piece by you and jack. Very nice indeed.

bachus · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject:

bachus · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:40 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:44 pm Post subject:

Now you are talking!
Very Happy

Cyxeris · Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 1125 Location: Louisville, KY

bachus · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:30 pm Post subject:

Hmm.. he might just be able to do just that. I am using Cubase myself and I have sinned..: I often write the notation in the score editor and read that while I try to perform he part onto another miditrack. I have discovered I have actually trained myself to be able to read the piano roll pretty well.. so now I am able to edit the small errors and still keep the essence of the performance without switching into score edit mode for the performance track. Anyway, playing synth is quite different from ordinary acoustical keyboards and the fact that you will play sounds with very different envelopes means that the actual score of a performance which sounds dead on might look very different when compared with the plain notation. Writing notation for the actual perfomance is something I have never been able to do well. It pretty much looks nasty and unreadable. It is much easier to read the notation events when they look sensible.

bachus · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject:

You just did Very Happy

Cyxeris · Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 1125 Location: Louisville, KY

Cyxeris · Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 1125 Location: Louisville, KY

And incidentally, it's always great to see new members who participate right off the bat as you have, rather than dump a link to their music and move on to the next website's forum to do the same. Welcome!