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Scott Stites
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

This is for JH when he arrives back on Saturday - in case anybody else is experiencing this, this ought to be enough to help him figure out the email thing (I believe Germaniac may be experiencing the same, for example). I post it now, because I may not be around when he is Very Happy

Here's what I'm getting back from the server:

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The message identifier is: 1I0fyh-00072P-HZ
The subject of the message is: Tau PCB Order 1 Piece
The date of the message is: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:40:24 -0500

The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is:

jhaible @t debitel. net
Delay reason: Connection timed out:
SMTP timeout while connected to mail2.dnsg.net [193.168.128.16] after initial connection


I altered the email in that message to jhaible @t debitel. net for the benefit of any robots they may be watching (it's JH's actual email address in the original message).

This was for the order I sent on the 19th. I have a similar message for the order I sent on the 18th.

I kind of wonder if there was such an influx of orders, debitel just went >sproing< at that moment.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I altered the email in that message to jhaible @t debitel. net for the benefit of any robots they may be watching


A very good idea indeed. Another trick is to embed the text in a jpg or gif. Use the same tricks they use to image spam us.

Didn't he say he was going to be out?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'll be sending my email to order one JH tonight.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Email sent, hope it arrived ok.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Greetings from my VHDL training course!

I've made a remote check of my mailbox - lots of pcb orders in there. Smile

I'll send confirmations on saturday - don't worry before that.

JH.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: JH Mail Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I got the same undeliverable message; then I got an ack from JH that he recvd my order. You may want to wait until after Saturday,when JH sends the acks out, just in case the mail server is oddly behaved.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Getting errors here to for the past few days.
Let's wait till Jurgen gets back.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi,

I came back last night and sent "order confirmed" mails for all orders I have found in my mailbox.

I hope everyone who has sent an order mail has an order confirmed mail by now.

(If not, please contact me again.)

JH.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Jurgen

I received your confirmation last night !

Just to know can you tell how many orders you got ?

Regards

Yves

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I made some drawings for various options of input and output connections of the Phaser, and put it to the web site:
http://www.jhaible.heim.at/tau/jh_tau.html

direct link:
http://www.jhaible.heim.at/tau/jh_tau_signal_and_cv_connections.pdf

The potentiometers and LEDs and power supply connections that you always need (4 potentiometers) are not shown in this drawing; just the pots and stuff that is optional.

This is to show you how this project can be rather simple and cheap, or quite comprehensive. The "Deluxe Version" is how I normally build stuff for myself: Input and output level control, separate pots for left and right output channels, a switch for each output (L and R) to select the main outptput or aux output from the pcb (gives two versions of Mono, Stereo, and inverted Stereo), bipolar electrolytics to get rid of the remaining millivolts of DC voltage, True (hard-wired) Bypass that puts the circuit completely out of the signal path (including the load of the input level pot!), and a green/red status LED to indicate on/bypass. (Requires a 4-pole, dual-throw switch.)
That's a version that allows comfortable working, level adjustment for the right balance of L and R output, and also for live manual panning effects.

OTOH, you don't need all this to get the dramatic phasing effects: The demo recordings were all made with the minimal configuration (page 1).

But I recommend to use an input level pot at least (page 2). Otherwise, you have to adjust the input level with th eoutpul level pot of the instrument you connect (or with the Mixer's Effect Send pot), and you probably want to reduce the input level with increased Resonance.

JH.[/i]

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I got my confirmation to Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject:
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Does the Tau Pipe works with line level signals (IN/OUT at +4dBu), as the FS-1 frequency shifter does ?

Or is it 10V p-p ?
Tau Systems made modulars ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject:
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funkyfarm wrote:
Does the Tau Pipe works with line level signals (IN/OUT at +4dBu), as the FS-1 frequency shifter does ?

Or is it 10V p-p ?
Tau Systems made modulars ?


That's just a matter of adjusting a few resistor values.

BTW, my original FS-1 works with everything from Mic level to modular synth level, because it has a SSM2017 input amplifier and input and output level potentiometers, in addition to the compander system.

Whether to include a Mic preamp or not will have to be decided in the pcb-layout-version of the Frequency Shifter (working title is FS-1A Smile ), as the SSM2017 is obsolete. (But we can discuss this in the frequency shifter topic:
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-18587-50.html

JH.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject:
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jhaible wrote:

That's just a matter of adjusting a few resistor values.


Yep ! Pleased to hear that !

no need to add ken stone's booster CGS-46

jhaible wrote:
BTW, my original FS-1 works with everything from Mic level to modular synth level


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject:
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[quote="funkyfarm"]
jhaible wrote:


jhaible wrote:
BTW, my original FS-1 works with everything from Mic level to modular synth level


Shocked


That's the input section:
http://jhaible.heim.at/tonline_stuff/hjfs5_ia.gif

ETA: That's the input section of my FS-1; the Tau Phaser has no microphone preamp! (Just to avoid confusion.)

JH.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is there perhaps interest for a 19 inch front panel?
Maybe i can organize something if there is enough interest.
And ordening some silked screen panels in great quanty's really let's the price drop.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mono-poly wrote:
Is there perhaps interest for a 19 inch front panel?
Maybe i can organize something if there is enough interest.
And ordening some silked screen panels in great quanty's really let's the price drop.


I encourage you, or anybody else, to create front panels for this, if you like.

Maybe I'll make a Schaeffer panel for myself some time (don't know when, and I don't know for which form factor yet - could be 19", could be table-top) and share the design file, but these engraved panels are certainly expensive, compared to silk screening.

So yes, any work in that direction is welcome. (You do it on your own, though; I'll just add a link to you on my Tau page, if you like.)

I also got some nice mails from two very friendly guys who will document building their Tau board, step by step, on their web site!

JH.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Order confirmed - thank you!

Best Regards,

JH.


Woooo hoooo!

Thank you! Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Last Call for Tau Phaser boards Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Last Call for Tau Phaser boards

I already have enough orders for the project to be definitely realized. Thank you all!

If you haven't ordered yet, or haven't received an order confirmation by now, please send your mail within the next couple of days - it's time to have these pcbs manufactured!

Email order form:
http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-18396-112.html

JH.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I really want to order a board, but it looks like my country (Denmark) isn't supported when it comes to adding funds from my bank account to my paypal account... Crying or Very sad

So if I don't want to send cash in an envelope, I'm basicallly screwed, right?

Damn, Norway and Sweden are supported, but not little ol' Denmark. Typical.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Awesome news JH. Can't wait to get my hands on this board.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

@Coriolis:
Perhaps we can arrange something. If you trust me I could receive your money by bank transfer and send it to Jürgen with paypal. If thats ok for you send me a PM.

Mike
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Got my confirmation as well. Sweet! Really looking forward to this.

BTW I am getting really delayed and missing emails about posts to this form. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Modularkomplex - check your pm... Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi JH,

Is the value for the 40 caps, 15uf, 1.5uf or 15nf? I tried ordering the 15uf value for Wima and Baldwin said it didn't exist, thanks.

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