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The Thomas Henry Mega Percussive Synthesizer
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monokinetic



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: MPS MOTM size PANEL DESIGN
Subject description: Questions about correctness
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lexvortex wrote:
I also saw Uncle Krunkus's panel with the three CV inputs which is what I would like to do, has anyone come up with a "safe" way to do this?


I would like to second this, has anyone thought of safe mod to get CV in?

Oh and @discoslut:

Is your front panel in the abacom front designer software? Is so don't suppose you would share the file would you Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I looked in the store to order one, but the MPS is sold out. Will there be more boards available soon?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Soon, is a relative term. I hope to order some more boards within the week, but - life steps in...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Oh and @discoslut:

Is your front panel in the abacom front designer software? Is so don't suppose you would share the file would you Wink

Dave


nope, it's made in Adobe Illustrator. Dunno if you can use that...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi, thanks for coming back to me.

I'm not so familiar with Illustrator, but from my understanding it can export SVG files. If you could export as this then I think it could be something that would be useful for me. But only if it's not too much hassle for you Smile If not I will just use your previously posted images as a guide!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just received mine in the mail and they look great. Compliments to everyone involved in their production!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd like to buy two pcb's as soon as they are back in stock. Hint hint Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hi everyone!
i've just finished building the MPS and the sounds veriety are just amazing.
i have some questions to all of you experts :
what is the right voltage for using with the synth, right now i'm working with two 9v batteries. what do you recommend?

how do i test the CV inputs? i did try it with a roland sh-101 CV out but can't get any sound.

and one more question,
according to the bugbrand connections diagrams lead 17/6 goes to "volume top" . i can't find the number on the back pannel diagram.
do i need to connect it to all 3 (shell ,impact and noise ) tops?

thanks a lot for your answers Very Happy
cheers
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

someone? Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sorry oneoff,
Seems we left you hanging there for a while hey?
Send a PM to the moderator if that happens in future, where is that Mr Stites anyway? Why, I, outta!! Shocked
Okay, now,
The MPS is actually designed for +/-15V, and Thomas was adamant that it should work well at that voltage first and foremost. It's possible you could get good results at +/-12V or even +/-9V, but I think you'd need to make some changes to get the best out of it. (BTW I'm not 100% sure about what those changes would be, but I'm sure my trusty assistant Igor Stites will chime in soon with some handy information. "Igor!?!?" muffled groans, shuffling down the corridor, "I'll put the hose on you again if you don't get in here this instant!!" )
I think the CV issue will be worse because you're using +/-9V, but again, I'd check with Igor.
I'm pretty sure the 17/6 "volume top" goes to the top of the main volume control. (just one) But I'm about to hunting on that to confirm.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Bugbrand doesn't actually have a main volume control on his panel. The 17/6 connection is lower level signal designed for line level output through a volume control. Bugbrand only used the 17/7 ouput, which is the full 5Vp-p signal for patching to other modules.
Check with the original schematics on Scott's site.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fantastic, just finished one of my MPS boards, wired and operating tremendously .
A couple of daft builder errors but works perfect now, i'm looking forward to getting the drum synth filled with voices.

http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-32167.html



For a manual trig button on the front panel i wired a momentary push between the sensitivity lock & -15V seems to work ok but i'm open to better suggestions ?????
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I just ordered some more boards. They should be on sale at the store within two weeks. Sorry for the delay.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I just ordered some more boards. They should be on sale at the store within two weeks


Excellent! I'll order two as soon as they arrive Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:16 am    Post subject: 15v main power question Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

one more question to all the experts here:

right now i'm using two separate psu's ,15v
each, the synth is working ok, but i can hear
some noise like a tiny whisle when connecting
the power.
i wonder if it happen because there are
2 power suplys or because they are normal
psu's and not stabilized type.

if i do need one +/- psu only so what would
be the chipest and fastest way of getting or building one?
thanks a lot!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you don't know about building PSUs, I'd recommend buying one. It's just a bit too dangerous building a PSU to encourage you to do it, IYKWIM. Wink
If you're confident you deal with it, there are many designs on the net. The schem isn't the dangerous bit though, it's the physicality of mounting the transformer, fuse, inlet, and ensuring a safe earth etc.
There's a company called "Power One" which makes good +/-15V linear supplies for Synth DIY.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks!
what about using two 15v psu's?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No, not a good idea.
The reason being that they could have their respective -ve sides connected to ground. When you wire them up to your stuff, one will get shorted. Even if they don't, you then can get phase problems etc.
You need a proper +/- PSU which uses a different type of transformer. A centre tapped, or dual secondary to be precise.
It might seem a pain, but getting a good PSU is a very good step in the right direction with Synth DIY.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks alot,
as i said the MPS is working with that two 15v setup,
but i guess it isn't too good for the circuit (i dont realt care
about these cheap psu's..)
so i will surely get myself a new +/- psu.
thanks again
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: MPS SUPER NOOB QUESTION Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Could someone tell me what these wiring harness-type connectors are? and where I might buy some. They don't appear on my parts list for the MPS, but looking at the pcb, it seems that this is what I should use. The cleaner, the better.

Thanks,

Andy


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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'd like to know also, as well as what tool is used to attach the wires.
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: wiring method Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I bet you just push a stripped wire into the slot. Maybe they come wire attached already. I would like that.
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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http://www.futurlec.com.au/ConnPolHead.jsp

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Problem solved! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks Luka! Problem solved.
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