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mono-poly

Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:14 am Post subject:
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I need a corel or eps format file.
Are there more people who want a panel like that in dotcom format?
Because that really breaks down the price a lot. |
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cliq
Joined: May 16, 2008 Posts: 6 Location: berlin
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:43 am Post subject:
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mono-poly wrote: | Are there more people who want a panel like that in dotcom format?
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i would be interested in such a panel, too. |
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Budgrubber

Joined: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: 72 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:11 am Post subject:
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I have been sourcing parts for this panel and have not been able to find an eight position rotary switch that is evenly spaced like I have it laid out. If anybody has a source I would be happy to hear about it. Otherwise I will have to change that part of the Range section a little before this gets printed.
mono-poly, I can save it from Illustrator as an EPS but I cannot add it as an attachment to the forum. PM me your e-mail and I will try to send it that way. What is the price looking like? If you don't mind me asking. |
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bugfight

Joined: Aug 02, 2007 Posts: 188 Location: Arlington, TX USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject:
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Budgrubber wrote: | I have been sourcing parts for this panel and have not been able to find an eight position rotary switch that is evenly spaced like I have it laid out. ... |
i used c&k A12515RNZQ
mouser p/n 611-A12515RNZQ
shaft is long, but plastic so easy to cut down.
i also opened it up and cut the stop tab off so it rotates 360
(which i had expected it to do as manufactured...) |
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Budgrubber

Joined: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: 72 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:33 am Post subject:
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bugfight wrote: |
i used c&k A12515RNZQ
mouser p/n 611-A12515RNZQ
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Yes! That looks like it will work and it doesn't cost a fortune. Once my order of switches and LED's comes in I should have everything ready to go. Except the panel itself of course. |
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bugfight

Joined: Aug 02, 2007 Posts: 188 Location: Arlington, TX USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject:
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Ok, here's my design:
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here's a blurry photo, not fully done, but assembled anywayz... box by hammond, gfx printed on papilio inkjet printable clear adhesive vinyl. |
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here's the design in digital finery, if that's your taste, times being what they are... |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24432 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:42 pm Post subject:
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Clear layout, nice looking panel! _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Uncle Krunkus
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Joined: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 4761 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject:
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Hmmm,
very nice looking, functional layout. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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BananaPlug

Joined: Jul 04, 2007 Posts: 307 Location: Philly
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject:
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Um, sorry to do this but it's "Coarse" not "Course."  |
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ultra
Joined: Dec 04, 2006 Posts: 55 Location: oshkosh, wi
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject:
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i think he modded it so it changes directions instead.  |
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bugfight

Joined: Aug 02, 2007 Posts: 188 Location: Arlington, TX USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject:
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Uncle Krunkus wrote: | Hmmm,
very nice looking, functional layout. |
Blue Hell wrote: | Clear layout, nice looking panel! |
thanks guys!
BananaPlug wrote: | Um, sorry to do this but it's "Coarse" not "Course."  |
dammit!
i guess i'll just chuck this in the garbage and start over...
but wait...
what's this little blue marker do?
ultra wrote: | i think he modded it so it changes directions instead.  |
hmmm knotical... |
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neandrewthal

Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 672 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:01 am Post subject:
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Fonik, Krunkus, anyone with sliders, can someone please tell me how much panel space the sliders take up? _________________ " I went through quite a few trannies til I found one I liked" - Wild Zebra |
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:08 am Post subject:
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neandrewthal wrote: | Fonik, Krunkus, anyone with sliders, can someone please tell me how much panel space the sliders take up? |
i got alpha's 30mm travel sliders from futurlec. they are about 45mm x 10mm. i placed them with a horizontal spacing of 15mm, considering the knobs i wanted to use.
however, try to find a datasheet for the sliders or even wait with manufacturing the panel until you got your sliders. safety first.  _________________
cheers,
matthias
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Uncle Krunkus
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Joined: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 4761 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:03 am Post subject:
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My sliders are a no-name type from Dick Smith.
They're 45mm travel, body 73mm long, 13mm wide, with mounting holes (tapped 3mm) at 65mm centres. I mounted them 17mm apart which requires smaller (10mm wide) knobs than usual. I had to get the knobs from Farnell, they were actually the hardest part of my Klee to source, and the last part placed.
I was thinking the other day that if I were to make another Klee I would replace the sliders with a switch of some type. I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I reckon 95% of the time you actually want the sliders to be at a particular ratio of the maximum voltage scale (which is very flexible anyway) and the ability to dial in an exact fraction is a bit over rated.
A 6 position rotary with a matched resistor network around 5 positions (0,25,50,75,100%) plus a small rotary pot on the 6th position for the extra flexibility.
Just an idea. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:09 am Post subject:
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Uncle Krunkus wrote: |
I was thinking the other day that if I were to make another Klee I would replace the sliders with a switch of some type. I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I reckon 95% of the time you actually want the sliders to be at a particular ratio of the maximum voltage scale (which is very flexible anyway) and the ability to dial in an exact fraction is a bit over rated.
A 6 position rotary with a matched resistor network around 5 positions (0,25,50,75,100%) plus a small rotary pot on the 6th position for the extra flexibility.
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absolutely! IIRC we discussed this in the original thread. i was thinking about that, too. someone was pointing to a 4x4 switch matrix with colored illuminated rubber switches, i am not able to find the link, though. i was thinking of using three of them, one for the pattern and one for the gates (only two busses then) and one for the sliders. would make a nice predictable uncertainty (or unpredictable certainty?) sequencer. _________________
cheers,
matthias
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:10 am Post subject:
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does anybody remember this switch matrix i am talking about? _________________
cheers,
matthias
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bugfight

Joined: Aug 02, 2007 Posts: 188 Location: Arlington, TX USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:39 am Post subject:
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was it the sparkfun 4x4?
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=7835
they are kinda big...
i made this for midibox:
http://www.midibox.org/forum/forums.html/topic,10004.msg74631.html#msg74631
in fact, you could replace the entire digital board with a midibox
and get clock, noise, midi sync, stored patches, etc etc
add analog out and you can replace the analog pcb too...
long sequences, multiple outs, wheee
maybe someday...
this has gone a bit off topic though, eh? |
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:42 am Post subject:
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BINGO! thank you so much! _________________
cheers,
matthias
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The Alison Project

Joined: Jul 21, 2006 Posts: 187 Location: Canada
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djthomaswhite

Joined: Nov 22, 2007 Posts: 140 Location: Orange, CA
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Rykhaard
Joined: Sep 02, 2007 Posts: 1290 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject:
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Just checked out the 1st half of Divide By Odd - 1st Movement from your webpage. I can't WAIT to hear what you start doing when your Klee is done! DVO is one of the coolest ambient pieces I've heard in a long, long time! (Not enough time tonight to listen to the whole thing).
The ever changing drones in the background with seemingly odd but not, burblings in the foreground ...... Barking right up my own ambient alley - further inspiring me in my return in building to build FASTER so that I can get enough of my machine up and running to begin composing on it.
Great work sir! Looking forward to more from ya! Especially with the power of the Klee! (Reminding myself to start on building mine, SOON! ) |
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neandrewthal

Joined: May 11, 2007 Posts: 672 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for the answers about the sliders guys. I was thinking of having a go at designing one to become a bridechamber panel but not after that I'm buying one for sure. Looks great!
Edit: I just noticed you said no announcements yet. Didn't Scott Deyo say it's "officially ripped off"?
The only thing I'd change is expand the oval a bit to better fill the space that is available. That would give us just a little more space between the knobs. _________________ " I went through quite a few trannies til I found one I liked" - Wild Zebra |
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djthomaswhite

Joined: Nov 22, 2007 Posts: 140 Location: Orange, CA
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:38 am Post subject:
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Yeah, the knobs might look a bit close together, but in my rotary MFOS build the entire center circle of "fine" knobs is as close together as the closest of spacing on this build. I have no experience yet with the KLEE but those who I have spoken with say you end up playing with the load switches often. I don't want to get the oval so big as to interfere with the bus switches for gates or load.
The circle/oval is easy to adjust based on tweaking from the outside edge of the pots and there is no interference with the grabbing of them from both sides either. The only thing I might change is to either shift the oval to the right a bit or two move the switches by the external input jacks on the left. Now that I have had a full night of sleep I seem to think the spacing could be more balanced to the right side of the module.
Scott Deyo... hold on any planning till we get this just right please. Yes, Scott will likely be working to get this out to the masses for one of his awesome prices. Glad to see you're interested and thanks for the feedback. Can the KLEE users out there give this a functionality look over please? Thanks guys!
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:41 am Post subject:
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Functionality wise it looks just fine.
Very cool looking panel. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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Scott Stites
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Joined: Dec 23, 2005 Posts: 4127 Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:58 am Post subject:
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Quote: | I was thinking the other day that if I were to make another Klee I would replace the sliders with a switch of some type. I don't mean to rain on your parade, but I reckon 95% of the time you actually want the sliders to be at a particular ratio of the maximum voltage scale (which is very flexible anyway) and the ability to dial in an exact fraction is a bit over rated. |
At least for the method of how I use the Klee, I'd have to disagree. This would sort of kill things for one step sequences. For the higher range sequences, the small adjustments do make quite a bit of difference. Lately I've taken to tuning steps to a keyboard in the high range, then going from there. They often "compress" nicely down to the lower ranges. I wouldn't be able to do that with switches.
But each to their own.
Cheerio,
Scott
(10000 miles from my Klee ) _________________ My Site |
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