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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Argitoth wrote:

actually I change my mind again. I better look into Blacet stuff. Good prices, small size, plenty of modules. Little more expensive than Synthesizer.com, but I think it'd be worth it. I think the banana pots generally have more ins and outs too.


Err.... Blacet uses 1/8" jacks, not bananas (same as Paia).

Other than that, Blacet modules look great, and you can get them already assembled. I've been planning to add myself a rack of Blacet stuff to my modular system.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I love phase distortion too much not to have it. Does any company make a module with the ability for phase distortion?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

A suggestion:

The thread is still running in the Nord Modular Discussion forum.
Why not start a new topic in one of the other subforums.. find one that fits the bill and post a new topic with a title that makes sense? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Argitoth wrote:
I love phase distortion too much not to have it. Does any company make a module with the ability for phase distortion?


Maybe Cynthia's Zeroscillator? Costs a grand, though (yes, that's for just one oscillator).

Phase distortion is better done in the digital domain. The Nord G2 can do it, in case you want to reconsider.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I made a new thread: http://electro-music.com/forum/post-192967.html#192967

Thanks for your help thus far!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tim wrote:
And an amusing digital-analog short story: I always thought of myself as an analogue afficionado, and searched many analogue synths for a specific, very special, personal type of sound I had in my head for years. I finally found it on the ... DX7 Shocked Laughing (on the DX7-emulation on the G2, to be precise)


I was scanning a few dx patches converted with the fantastic G2ools the other day, and was pleasantly surprised by the 'warmth' or 'roundness' (sorry for the words) that I love from my JX10 stringpads but often find lacking on the G2. I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.
Since I am considering selling the JX10 (too little time for enough attention and lack of visual overview - we G2 afficionados are spoilt rotten), I was pleasantly surprised. I had not given the DX7 modules any significant attention, but that will probably change. I have not experimented much with them yet, and noticed that there has not been that much discussion on using them, tips, tricks, etc. Let's change that. What about exchanging some top-level modulators for variable shape osc's? Is it me or is the 'G2 sound character' very different on these patches? Blablabla.....

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fozzie wrote:
[...]noticed that there has not been that much discussion on using them[...]


True, but to be complete Laughing g2ian has been using them often through the years.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Blue Hell wrote:
Fozzie wrote:
[...]noticed that there has not been that much discussion on using them[...]


True, but to be complete Laughing g2ian has been using them often through the years.


Yes, as I was searching through the forums I found several threads with FS1R emulations and related stuff, with contributions of G2ian and others. I do not want to imply that I made a breakthrough discovery - quite the opposite - it was just a personal observation and I thought I'd try to raise a nice discussion. If not, than I have some new topics for G2 experimentation this summer Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I thought I'd try to raise a nice discussion.


Of course, and I don't want to frustrate that in any way, I just added a personal observation.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fozzie wrote:
tim wrote:
And an amusing digital-analog short story: I always thought of myself as an analogue afficionado, and searched many analogue synths for a specific, very special, personal type of sound I had in my head for years. I finally found it on the ... DX7 Shocked Laughing (on the DX7-emulation on the G2, to be precise)


I was scanning a few dx patches converted with the fantastic G2ools the other day, and was pleasantly surprised by the 'warmth' or 'roundness' (sorry for the words) that I love from my JX10 stringpads but often find lacking on the G2. I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.
Since I am considering selling the JX10 (too little time for enough attention and lack of visual overview - we G2 afficionados are spoilt rotten), I was pleasantly surprised. I had not given the DX7 modules any significant attention, but that will probably change. I have not experimented much with them yet, and noticed that there has not been that much discussion on using them, tips, tricks, etc. Let's change that. What about exchanging some top-level modulators for variable shape osc's? Is it me or is the 'G2 sound character' very different on these patches? Blablabla.....


Oh yes, I totally agree. DX7-FM is capable of some very warm, lush and organic sounds. All the lore about it being mainly good for synthetic and metallic timbres is simply a myth, most probably perpetuated by those who just crank the operator levels up to max (where things most often do start to sound very synthetic and metallic) without really listening to what's happening in between. It's in these small hidden "in-between" areas where the real sweet spots lie. Subtlety is the key. Careful tweaking, hard listening.

I've come to think that DX-FM and the DX7 are vastly underrated. There's still alot of unchartered territory there. It requires, however, a fair amount of abstract thinking in order to get your head around it. It's not like your VCO-VCF-VCA Laughing . I don't know any synthesists who can really claim mastery of it.

I've started to dabble on the Yamaha SY99 some time ago. Among many things, the SY77/99 has the advantage that the algorithms are not totally rigid. You can add up to three additional "cables" freely between operators, which open up quite some more possibilities. Once I got the hang of it, I was having a perverse sort of fun of synthesizing mock-up analog style sounds, like resonant-filtered sawtooths and PWM. Laughing DX-PWM pads sound very lush, BTW.

Also on the G2, with the DX-FM-setup I get especially pads that sound way more warm and lush than stuff made with the oscillators and filter modules. For me, this shows how much of the "G2 sound" is in fact due to the algorithms, and not the converters.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Although this may get a little OT: is it me or is it impossible to assign morphs to any dx operator parameter? Bummer. Would be nice to assign some minor keyboard tracking (fine knob) to fixed ratio operators.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fozzie wrote:
Although this may get a little OT: is it me or is it impossible to assign morphs to any dx operator parameter?

No, you're unfortunately right. The DX-modules are 1:1 replicas of the original -no morphing functionality.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Fozzie wrote:
I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.


Foz- what do you mean by "philadelphia-type stringpads"? Would you site a song/album/group, or post a 5 second mp3?
I grew up near Philly, but never heard a reference llike this before.

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cappy2112 wrote:
Fozzie wrote:
I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.


Foz- what do you mean by "philadelphia-type stringpads"? Would you site a song/album/group, or post a 5 second mp3?
I grew up near Philly, but never heard a reference llike this before.


I believe he was referring to the soft string pad in the Bruce Springsteen's song "Streets of Philadelphia" (from the movie Philadelphia).

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I believe he was referring to the soft string pad in the Bruce Springsteen's song "Streets of Philadelphia"


A bit OT, but that song sounds a lot like Lauri Anderson's "O Superman", no?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L9_8vwx2w8 (for the Springsteen song)

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Blue Hell wrote:

A bit OT, but that song sounds a lot like Lauri Anderson's "O Superman", no?


I had forgotten how much I like that song!
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I think my favorite work of hers is "Excellent Birds"
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BobTheDog wrote:
Blue Hell wrote:

A bit OT, but that song sounds a lot like Lauri Anderson's "O Superman", no?


I had forgotten how much I like that song!


during my years at the Conservatory I had to write down an analysis of that song.


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I fear even if it was in English I would not understand it!
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fac wrote:
cappy2112 wrote:
Fozzie wrote:
I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.


Foz- what do you mean by "philadelphia-type stringpads"? Would you site a song/album/group, or post a 5 second mp3?
I grew up near Philly, but never heard a reference llike this before.


I believe he was referring to the soft string pad in the Bruce Springsteen's song "Streets of Philadelphia" (from the movie Philadelphia).


I was. Although I would never have linked it to that Lauri Anderson's song. Nice link though.

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