actually I change my mind again. I better look into Blacet stuff. Good prices, small size, plenty of modules. Little more expensive than Synthesizer.com, but I think it'd be worth it. I think the banana pots generally have more ins and outs too.
Err.... Blacet uses 1/8" jacks, not bananas (same as Paia).
Other than that, Blacet modules look great, and you can get them already assembled. I've been planning to add myself a rack of Blacet stuff to my modular system.
The thread is still running in the Nord Modular Discussion forum.
Why not start a new topic in one of the other subforums.. find one that fits the bill and post a new topic with a title that makes sense? _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:56 am Post subject:
tim wrote:
And an amusing digital-analog short story: I always thought of myself as an analogue afficionado, and searched many analogue synths for a specific, very special, personal type of sound I had in my head for years. I finally found it on the ... DX7 (on the DX7-emulation on the G2, to be precise)
I was scanning a few dx patches converted with the fantastic G2ools the other day, and was pleasantly surprised by the 'warmth' or 'roundness' (sorry for the words) that I love from my JX10 stringpads but often find lacking on the G2. I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.
Since I am considering selling the JX10 (too little time for enough attention and lack of visual overview - we G2 afficionados are spoilt rotten), I was pleasantly surprised. I had not given the DX7 modules any significant attention, but that will probably change. I have not experimented much with them yet, and noticed that there has not been that much discussion on using them, tips, tricks, etc. Let's change that. What about exchanging some top-level modulators for variable shape osc's? Is it me or is the 'G2 sound character' very different on these patches? Blablabla..... _________________ Spinning at ~0.0000115740740741 Hz
[...]noticed that there has not been that much discussion on using them[...]
True, but to be complete g2ian has been using them often through the years. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:44 am Post subject:
Blue Hell wrote:
Fozzie wrote:
[...]noticed that there has not been that much discussion on using them[...]
True, but to be complete g2ian has been using them often through the years.
Yes, as I was searching through the forums I found several threads with FS1R emulations and related stuff, with contributions of G2ian and others. I do not want to imply that I made a breakthrough discovery - quite the opposite - it was just a personal observation and I thought I'd try to raise a nice discussion. If not, than I have some new topics for G2 experimentation this summer _________________ Spinning at ~0.0000115740740741 Hz
Of course, and I don't want to frustrate that in any way, I just added a personal observation. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
And an amusing digital-analog short story: I always thought of myself as an analogue afficionado, and searched many analogue synths for a specific, very special, personal type of sound I had in my head for years. I finally found it on the ... DX7 (on the DX7-emulation on the G2, to be precise)
I was scanning a few dx patches converted with the fantastic G2ools the other day, and was pleasantly surprised by the 'warmth' or 'roundness' (sorry for the words) that I love from my JX10 stringpads but often find lacking on the G2. I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.
Since I am considering selling the JX10 (too little time for enough attention and lack of visual overview - we G2 afficionados are spoilt rotten), I was pleasantly surprised. I had not given the DX7 modules any significant attention, but that will probably change. I have not experimented much with them yet, and noticed that there has not been that much discussion on using them, tips, tricks, etc. Let's change that. What about exchanging some top-level modulators for variable shape osc's? Is it me or is the 'G2 sound character' very different on these patches? Blablabla.....
Oh yes, I totally agree. DX7-FM is capable of some very warm, lush and organic sounds. All the lore about it being mainly good for synthetic and metallic timbres is simply a myth, most probably perpetuated by those who just crank the operator levels up to max (where things most often do start to sound very synthetic and metallic) without really listening to what's happening in between. It's in these small hidden "in-between" areas where the real sweet spots lie. Subtlety is the key. Careful tweaking, hard listening.
I've come to think that DX-FM and the DX7 are vastly underrated. There's still alot of unchartered territory there. It requires, however, a fair amount of abstract thinking in order to get your head around it. It's not like your VCO-VCF-VCA . I don't know any synthesists who can really claim mastery of it.
I've started to dabble on the Yamaha SY99 some time ago. Among many things, the SY77/99 has the advantage that the algorithms are not totally rigid. You can add up to three additional "cables" freely between operators, which open up quite some more possibilities. Once I got the hang of it, I was having a perverse sort of fun of synthesizing mock-up analog style sounds, like resonant-filtered sawtooths and PWM. DX-PWM pads sound very lush, BTW.
Also on the G2, with the DX-FM-setup I get especially pads that sound way more warm and lush than stuff made with the oscillators and filter modules. For me, this shows how much of the "G2 sound" is in fact due to the algorithms, and not the converters.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject:
Although this may get a little OT: is it me or is it impossible to assign morphs to any dx operator parameter? Bummer. Would be nice to assign some minor keyboard tracking (fine knob) to fixed ratio operators. _________________ Spinning at ~0.0000115740740741 Hz
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:13 am Post subject:
Fozzie wrote:
I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.
Foz- what do you mean by "philadelphia-type stringpads"? Would you site a song/album/group, or post a 5 second mp3?
I grew up near Philly, but never heard a reference llike this before. _________________ Free Tibet. Release the Panchen Lama from prison. Let the Dalai Lama return to his home.
I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.
Foz- what do you mean by "philadelphia-type stringpads"? Would you site a song/album/group, or post a 5 second mp3?
I grew up near Philly, but never heard a reference llike this before.
I believe he was referring to the soft string pad in the Bruce Springsteen's song "Streets of Philadelphia" (from the movie Philadelphia). _________________ My music: http://cdbaby.com/all/fac
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject:
fac wrote:
cappy2112 wrote:
Fozzie wrote:
I am a sucker for those soft & moody streets of philadelphia-type stringpads, but I grew up in the 80's, so hope to be excused for this.
Foz- what do you mean by "philadelphia-type stringpads"? Would you site a song/album/group, or post a 5 second mp3?
I grew up near Philly, but never heard a reference llike this before.
I believe he was referring to the soft string pad in the Bruce Springsteen's song "Streets of Philadelphia" (from the movie Philadelphia).
I was. Although I would never have linked it to that Lauri Anderson's song. Nice link though. _________________ Spinning at ~0.0000115740740741 Hz
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