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diablojoy

Joined: Sep 07, 2008 Posts: 809 Location: melbourne australia
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emdot_ambient
Joined: Nov 22, 2009 Posts: 667 Location: Frederick, MD
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:05 am Post subject:
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| diablojoy wrote: | | ...not quite finished completely but along with everything else it is getting there slowly... |
Woah...what's goin on with the pot mounting in that cabinet? Looks like you're mounting the pots behind the front panel so the knobs kind of go through the front panel? Strangely compelling.
I see an M-185 sequencer on the other side of the cabinet, too. I've got 2 of both sequencers to be built and am looking forward to programming the VCPS with the M-185 (clock the M-185 so that it only plays one pulse every 4 measures or something so the VCPS pattern changes are controlled more at a song level). |
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diablojoy

Joined: Sep 07, 2008 Posts: 809 Location: melbourne australia
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Woah...what's goin on with the pot mounting in that cabinet? Looks like you're mounting the pots behind the front panel so the knobs kind of go through the front panel? |
yes exactly that. pots and switches are mounted on a piece of unequal ally angle set behind the front panel that also provides for the board mounting
there is also 6mm of perspex between, which i hope to light up at some point
to provide some back lighting
i have few of each M185 and VCPS seq + others to do so i'am following a similar plan as you there, really need to get on and do a master clock and some dividers soon but got to get my head round pic programing first though for the master clock |
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TekniK

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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject:
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with a proper silkscreen or engraving your modules would be more as awesome
Very machine looking devices,i like them very much |
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diablojoy

Joined: Sep 07, 2008 Posts: 809 Location: melbourne australia
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:18 pm Post subject:
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thanks TeKniK
will be doing something along those lines haven't quite decided
what exactly as yet though I am leaning towards white with blue lettering
also note that is only a temp timber case for testing shown the real ones are still under construction also in wood but very organic looking lumpy and bent like bananas haha very labour intensive !
hence the vertical not quite 19 inch format 50mm width increments not the norm, material is easier to obtain and cheaper that way |
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:34 am Post subject:
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| diablojoy wrote: | pots and switches are mounted on a piece of unequal ally angle set behind the front panel that also provides for the board mounting
there is also 6mm of perspex between, which i hope to light up at some point
to provide some back lighting |
awesome! _________________
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matthias
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DamDuram
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:21 am Post subject:
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i want to order 2 pcb´s , please.
greetings |
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oldmanfury

Joined: Oct 20, 2006 Posts: 57 Location: CA
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:16 am Post subject:
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| oldmanfury wrote: | | I finished up my VCPS8 this morning. |
awesome work. your fracrack version looks amazing...
| Quote: | The project documentation was great, although I recommend revising the comment
"MOTM Style Connector +15V / GND / -15V nothing special to take care about."
to "Unlike PCB graphics take care to place the tab on the bottom!"
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yep. i somehow mixed that up...
good to hear.
| Quote: | | except for one oddity... mine "boots up" funny every other time I power up. It shows active steps (LED's are lit) , but is unresponsive to the offset/fine/CV control. Cycle the power and it usually wakes up fine. Any ideas on this? |
i already built two units, both work fine.
maybe next time it stuckes you could check the clock for the ADC with a scope?
or try a different ADC - just guessing though... _________________
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matthias
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unterbit

Joined: Dec 08, 2008 Posts: 30 Location: Russia.St Petersburg
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:57 pm Post subject:
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Dear Matthias !
I would take 1(VCPS) psb,+2ring mod=comb.shipping?
Please confirm.
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oldmanfury

Joined: Oct 20, 2006 Posts: 57 Location: CA
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject:
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| fonik wrote: | | maybe next time it stuckes you could check the clock for the ADC with a scope? or try a different ADC - just guessing though... |
Yeah - it could have to do with my using an alternate ADC (mouser didn't have the recommended one). I used this one, which looks to be nominally the same, but perhaps it is just ever so slightly different...
http://www.nteinc.com/specs/2000to2099/pdf/nte2053.pdf |
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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject:
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I have that problem with a stuck clock on power up sometimes , i got round it by using a double pole momentary push to break switch , press it to break the supply a couple of times then good to go , that's perhaps a lazy way to fix it , but works great for me
Dave. |
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fonik

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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:13 am Post subject:
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dave, which ADC did you use?
(the ADC0801 provides an internal clock. however according to datasheet one would then need a 'start'-switch circuitry. so i went for an external clock for the ADC just to prevent the need of such an additional switch!) _________________
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matthias
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oldmanfury

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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:06 pm Post subject:
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Looks like you're onto something here - the data sheet for the DAC I used says :
"The device may be operated in the free−running mode by connecting
INTR to the WR input with CS = 0. To insure start−up under all possible conditions, an external WR pulse is required during the first power−up cycle." |
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Skrog Productions

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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:55 am Post subject:
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Hi Mattias , i used the ADC0804 from Farnel uk , just occasionally it sticks on step 8 at start up with all adc switches on, i had a look at the data sheet and i see the momentary grounding WR diagram , i'll try catching it under fault & test the clock feed.
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fonik

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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject:
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| Skrog Productions wrote: | | ...i had a look at the data sheet and i see the momentary grounding WR diagram |
i thought the momentary grounding -WR is needed only when self-clocking is used (internal clock). strange that i never experienced any problems with three builds. BTW i am using a 0801, however they should be all the same despite their accuracy, i believe. _________________
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LektroiD

Joined: Aug 23, 2008 Posts: 1019 Location: Scottish Borders
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Edit - double post  _________________ LektroiD Last edited by LektroiD on Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:16 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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LektroiD

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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:15 pm Post subject:
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Would a BZY88 (5V1) be ok in place of Z1? _________________ LektroiD |
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fonik

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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:40 pm Post subject:
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| LektroiD wrote: | | Would a BZY88 (5V1) be ok in place of Z1? |
yes, no problem. _________________
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matthias
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LektroiD

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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:32 am Post subject:
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Hi a couple of questions;
1, can these work linked to make 16 steps? I'm thinking of building 2 into a single panel.
2, I'm in the process of ordering the 40xx series ICs, there seems to be many variants and some appear to have different functions, they all have different suffixes, which are recommended for each?
..I have some 40xx series ICs in my collection, but they are not prefixed with 'CD', is this essential?
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fonik

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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:41 am Post subject:
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| LektroiD wrote: | | 1, can these work linked to make 16 steps? I'm thinking of building 2 into a single panel. |
it is not that easy to link two 4017 to have more than 8 steps. the easiest way would be to clock one 4017 using the CLK+ input (that's how it works now), and to clock the 2nd 4017 using the CLK- input (pin13, with pin14 set HI). this way the two seqs would work alternating. i am not quite sure about the reset, though. anyone?
another interesting method would be what hoshuyama did. here you would have both 4017's linked sequential. however, i would not recommend to try modifying the PCBs to reflect his circuitry...
hoshuyama 16step 4017 seq
| Quote: | 2, I'm in the process of ordering the 40xx series ICs, there seems to be many variants and some appear to have different functions, they all have different suffixes, which are recommended for each?
..I have some 40xx series ICs in my collection, but they are not prefixed with 'CD', is this essential? |
the suffixes are ordering information, actually (packaging, temperature range...).
the prefix can be the manufacturer and/or the type. in my circuit the 4017 is powered from +15V, so you definitely want to be sure to have a CMOS that can handle this. the parts with "HC" in their name (i.e. 74HC4017) are not suitable for +15V operation. _________________
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matthias
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XCenter

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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:29 am Post subject:
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I´d just add a sequential switch circuit in front of both gate/trigger-ins to route the incoming clock. That way both VCPSs should be "addressed" one after another.  _________________ --
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fonik

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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:42 am Post subject:
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this and a divider upfront, and a mixer downstream.
i mean, it is called "modular"...  _________________
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matthias
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XCenter

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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:55 am Post subject:
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| fonik wrote: | i mean, it is called "modular"...  |
Yep.
I´m always trying to think in modules first before modifying (and probably frying) a project. I´m not willing to learn it the hard way, you see.  _________________ --
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werock
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:49 am Post subject:
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| oldmanfury wrote: |
I went with 2-color 2.5 mm LED's to save some space - I like this option. Since I used jacks on the board, I can swap S_LED and P_LED, depending on whether I want green/orange or red/orange LED's to show each step.
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That's a nice build - how exactly do you wire the 2-color LED's? I'm interested in doing the same thing for mine, just not sure what gets wired to each leg of the LED - with normal LED's there are separate leads for anode/cathode.
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