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8-Step Sequencer with voltage controllable pattern (VCPS)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

magman wrote:
Here's my first attempt at a panel for this PCB in MOTM format (or almost).
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It's a little busy, but I think it would work.



I like it. I think I prefer this with the small knobs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Skrog Productions wrote:
would it be easy to implement an incoming clock led ??.

sure. i think a resistor and a LED would do.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's my MOTM Version (which i am currently working on the PCB side).


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i eventually added the calibration procedure
to the current building documentation.


BTW nice one, jan.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi , 99% finished , i love this sequencer , a pleasant project , good documentation and a satisfying new module Smile .

Just a little problem to solve......
Do i have a problem with my gate ?? , my gate output , when all stages are set to 'on' , the circuit is outputing a constant gate voltage (12v ) (supply is 12v ) traced all the way back to pin 3 of the 40106 .
The trigger pulses as normal on each step change (sometimes with a double pulse) but the gate is constant even at really slow clocking rates.
In adc or off positions the gate seems to act normally.

Thanks

Dave.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice looking blue design there, very logically laid out.

The color scheme reminds me of the design on old Deltalab Effectrons. thumb up
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Skrog Productions wrote:
Just a little problem to solve......
Do i have a problem with my gate ?? , my gate output , when all stages are set to 'on' , the circuit is outputing a constant gate voltage (12v ) (supply is 12v ) traced all the way back to pin 3 of the 40106 .

not talking about the 12V here:
if all stages are 'on' there will be a constant voltage at the gate output. same goes for two subsequent steps that are both 'on': they will merge and form one long gate. that's the reason i added the trigger. the trigger length follows the clock width, thus generating seperate triggers/gates for all subsequent steps that are 'on'.

what voltage do you measure for a single gate?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ah , ok , i understand now Smile , silly me Very Happy.

voltage at gate out on single is 11.22v.
Collector on Q5 11.88v.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

sounds good to me. are you using an LM324 for the buffers?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BTW great module you've built. and it is good to have the LEDs near the step switches and pots...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

fonik wrote:
...it is good to have the LEDs near the step switches and pots...

That's what I was thinking. The designs I've seen with the pattern LEDs all together kind of confuse my old brain. I look at them and have to stop and wonder what they mean. Putting them near the switches/pots gives me instant visual feedback as to what's going on.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

fonik wrote:
sounds good to me. are you using an LM324 for the buffers?



I am now Smile .



i chose to use 5mm leds because im rubbish at crafting a nice rectangular hole in aluminium for the strip version leds Very Happy heh , i also had lots in the component drawers to use up Smile .

Thanks for the comments , i will get some audio tests up over the weekend.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi , here's an mp3 of some switch flicking and dial turning on the V.C.P.S-8.
Start off with all steps to 'on' then switch all to ADC then adjusting the offset & fine pattern cv control .
The pattern cv came from my mfos 16 step sequencer clocked at 1/8th the rate of the vcps incoming clock for some slow pattern changes , i speed it up and down towards the end with a vcf sweep.
All synced to my drum machine Smile


i can see more Epicyclus music coming from this great sequencer, heh.
still one more vcps to build Smile .
Dave.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very nice Dave,

I'll have to get mine built Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Nice one, Dave. I'm stoked about this sequencer...got 2 to build, but no enclosure to put them in.

I plan on controlling mine from one of the two M-185 sequencers I've got to build from ryktnk. The combo should be great. The M-185 is 8-steps but each step can be retriggered up to 8 times before moving to the next step. So it can act as a kind of song arranger, storing up to 8 pattern changes and/or CV transpositions over the course of its cycle.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

@fonik: have some build issues, so i emailed you, just FYI.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Actually, i found the error.

The orientation of the Power connector is wrong:

See:

http://www.blacet.com/misc.html

The "thick" line should be on the opposite site. Good that i have resettable
fuses. Module is working now Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

glad you found out...
fortunately the labeling on the PCB and in the documentation is consistent, so it is just the orientation of the connector itself, that does not match the MOTM standard...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

nearly done with the rats nest Smile last question: how to wire the (and to where) >0V and >5v LEDs (lowest two ones on your design panel) ?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I am still stuck with something:

- LED1 and LED2 now connected correctly (as i may assume), then with 95% turn of clockwise of the Offset i get the >5V LED lit. I NEVER got the <0V LED on, tested function by reversing LED1/LED2, so LED is definitely okay.
- Calibration does not seem to work, i still get fluctuations on the LED and cannot select the last pattern with T1.

@fonik: got a bit of time for troubleshooting ? seems a minor one, but i'm not able to find it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hallo jan,

do you use latest building documentation (06.07.2010)?
last pattern would be 0000000I (gray code).
do you use external voltage to light the <0 LED?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

i am using the latest build instructions including the calibration info, however still the same issue.
i connected LED1 and LED2 to those (>5V <0V), but i am not able to get the 0V one lit. what do you mean with "externally powered" ?

i tested the LED's and both _are_ working.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

the <0V LED does light when the CV is below 0V, this can only be hwen using control voltages that have negative excursions. you won't get negative voltages when turning the offset pots.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

got my first VCPS running not quite finished completely but along with everything else it is getting there slowly
by the way fonik orsm seq this is so much more than expected
a short noodle to follow, well maybe not that short Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

and noodle Shocked


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