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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I knowingly have never heard a Virus, but they certainly look good and have some amazing features. This integrating into the computer seems like the way to go.

My only objection to this company is they seem to discontinue models every few years. Roland, Alesis, Moog, Korg, etc. seem to support a line for many years. The Korg MS2000 or the Alesis QS series have been made for years. I think within 4 years Access has had the Virus B, C and now TI.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tim wrote:
I'm actually considering selling off one G2X for the new Virus.


That might work quite well.
Those virus demos are so polished.
I think it would be nice to have a box filled with everyone’s favourite synthesiser sounds, and lots of polyphony.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

g2ian wrote:

I think it would be nice to have a box filled with everyone’s favourite synthesiser sounds, and lots of polyphony.


I listened to those demos. They do sound pretty slick. It does sound like a collection of "favorite synth sounds". I guess for that reason I would avoid them.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The demo files are weird. It seems like Access is trying to sell the Virus to the polka board crowd. I have used the Virus myself, and it´s a mean synth machine. The signature sounds you get off the Virus are nothing like the demo polka medley.

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Hmm.. what do I know. The sounds I got out of the PPG were nothing like what people would think a PPG could make at all.

My point is that the Virus is an excellent synth. I am not completely convinced about the UI layout though, but it is worth checking out.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yes, I'm sure it's an excellent synth. I meant I would avoid the sounds, not the synth. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
The demo files are weird. It seems like Access is trying to sell the Virus to the polka board crowd.


I think that is a good thing. Personally, I don't care who they try to sell it to, as long as the instrument itself is good. More sales means better product support.

elektro80 wrote:
I have used the Virus myself, and it´s a mean synth machine. The signature sounds you get off the Virus are nothing like the demo polka medley.


I think there is a dark, warm, liquid quality to the Virus sound, which I like very much. I have always felt attracted to it.


elektro80 wrote:
My point is that the Virus is an excellent synth. I am not completely convinced about the UI layout though, but it is worth checking out.


The UI and the overall concept was the reason why I chose to go with Clavia synths and not with Access.

The Virus UI has a major flaw in that almost all knobs have multiple functions, but are conventional pots rather than rotary encoders. This means that when you flip from one knob assignment to another in order to attenuate parameters (eg. from EQ to FX), turning the knobs will make that parameter jump to where the knob is. Very silly design.

But maybe adding one of our good'ole Behringer BCR boxes could alleviate that somewhat.

When I said I like the Virus "sound", I didn't refer to those demo patches, I meant the overal sound quality. IMHO, the Virus algorithms are very well done and sound better than anything else I've ever heard in the VA department. The DACs are good too.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I would like to finally get my hands on one of these, but I imagine with all the preorders out there, it will probably be months before one shows up in my town ...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey, SynthLoard, welcome to electro-music.com.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I had my desktop TI yesterday. I could'nt boot up with the beta os. Finally fiddling with the booting up and the installation of the new os, it's awesome. Yes, it works in DP4.6 as AU. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So I tried it today.

I must say, I'm very disappointed.

Oscillator aliasing was always the achilles heel of the Virus synths, being quite audible at osc frequencies which were still in a musical range. (I don't think we care much about aliasing dog whistles) Abd as much as I always liked the Virus otherwise, it's aliasing issues always kept me from buying on.

So you'd think that, with a whopping new DSP engine and 192kHz clocking, they'd manage to finally sort this out -but no: the aliasing is still exactly the same! And it's really bad. (In fact, it has reminded me how good the anti-aliasing algorithms on the Clavia G2 are.)

This issue might be not so important for many but it killed the TI for me. Uninteresting. Too bad.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Whats with the huge number of maintenance updates? Each one starts with "improved stability and timing". Any TI owners out there? How bad is it????
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

tim wrote:

So you'd think that, with a whopping new DSP engine and 192kHz clocking, they'd manage to finally sort this out -but no: the aliasing is still exactly the same!

This is really shocking. Too bad, indeed...

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