Why is IDM scene so limited in the US?

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject:

Great idea! ........

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OK.. now I have tried doing that.. can I hang around here again? Huh Huh Huh??

invisibl · Joined: Sep 25, 2003 Posts: 23

Was it here that I read about artists being the canaries of society.

Maybe Kurt Vonnegut.

Help!?!?

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:44 pm Post subject:

You wanna have me fax you my nonfunctional teleporter?

Do I need help?? HELP!

mosc · Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:45 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:46 pm Post subject:

Artists being.. well.. OK.. might have been here.. might have Vonnegut.. might have been a part of an early draft of The Terminator 2 screenplay. You never know these days..

Static Strobe Emitter · Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:54 am Post subject: hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Im sitting here listening to Benny Benassi............
Its very dry music, simple, total uncomplex,
and I love the sound ://////

The music itself are not the best, but the sound is
something that appeals me, am I mutant too? 8////

mosc

AgentA · Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:21 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:13 am Post subject:

Nahh... well.. no... just wanted to know I Metricks is doing it? BTW: I saw this interview with the dudes in Mouse on Mars in the november issue of Sound On Sound.. are they doing IDM?

AgentA · Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:41 pm Post subject:

As far as Metricks having micro beats, I would say there are a couple of instances of it. The track is self labeled, "Downtempo" and I think that's appropriate. This is because of the way the rhythm is handled. It also has some use of the stylistic element of echo as found in Dub.

I haven't heard any Mouse On Mars for a couple of years but from what I remember, their music incorporates a lot of the stylistic elements found in IDM as described by Robert Whiteman in zynthetix's post earlier.

Let me add another broadcast that plays idm:
"Cliqhop" on http://www.somafm.com

I guess until I hear the Warp album mentioned and more by Autechre, Squarepusher and Aphex Twin I won't really have an informed idea of what idm is.
From what I can tell though, the lines are blurred when it comes to determining what it is. Sometimes it's quite accessible with a melody and sometimes it's a challenge to listen to because of its extreme treatment of twisting and distorting of the beats in combination with noise sculpting.

now playing: "Fuck Up Everything You Can" by Kid 606

zynthetix · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:47 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:11 am Post subject:

I wonder.. is there any point in actually using the IDM label? Obviously Some will go "AHA..right!" when you say this or that is IDM.. and others will go "huh". Using IDM to cover everything from Kraftwerk way back to Squarepusher might be pushing it a bit too far. IDM might actually make more sense for listeners and fans than for the poor musicians/composers ( that being us guys and gals here?). When I listen to some of what is labelled IDM I think of better terms to describe the music.. as in " a dash of Parliamemt Funkadelic, glitch aestethics and slow reggae with a triple speed backwards powerfusion beat on top" etc etc.

I tend to like listen to the various voices in a piece.. and study what the drummer/drum-machine does.. etc etc.. you know.. to the degree that I understand musically what the piece is about and how it is done.

One interesting trend that has kinda blossomed in the "slightly to the subversive left of he middle of the road music" is late 60s/early 70s avantgarde rock meeting classical avantgarde and world music - giving us a new kind of fusion which is extremely differentfrom when jazzrock went fusion in the early 80s. So what is all this about? Probably that avantgarde aestechics in music became part of the pop scene.. and what happens next is .. well.. more of the same. IDM is probably a slice of this new fusion pie that .. well.. someone labelled IDM.. but this does not say much about the actual music. Evidently IDM would not make much sense on its own.

But.. back to genres.. remember prog? In the early days prog was.. well.. all kinds of different stuff that for the lack of a better label got nicknamed progressive music. Zappa, VDGG, YES and Genesis were all in the prog camp once. What happened is that n the late 70s prog died.. and got resurrected pretty much instantanously into a style that new bands use.. using the methods of the old masters. Evidently the old boys came up with something other people later shaped into a tradition. Some of the new onbes are orignal.. oters are making all those albums that genesis and VDGG and others never got around to record Very Happy

I suspect time will tell if IDM gets to be a tradition or not.

djfoxyfox · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:51 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 8:08 pm Post subject:

.. and it seems a lot of the new prog stuff is pretty kool. Very Happy