Are electronic instruments unemotional

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:01 pm Post subject:

I have planned for a long time to sit down, put the CD on and write a bit about it. I usually play recorded music when I am working or on the move or whatever. I like it. To me this sounds like music in the grand old tradition. I have still no idea what space music is though.

egw · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:10 pm Post subject:

The history of that CD is a little interesting:
Most of it was recorded the first time the 3 of us played together.
Originally it was intended to be a demo, but we decided to make it available to others.
I think that our music has improved a lot since then, as we have gotten familiar with each other's styles.
So, stay tuned for the next Xeroid CD, which should be available soon!

zynthetix · Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:26 am Post subject:

I see anything electronic as a glorified form of manipulating electricity...Even listening to music on your CD player falls under this classification. So from this perspective, I see an electric guitar as an electronic instrument, just as much as a synthetsizer.

It's been said before, but whoever is crafting the peice is the one who needs to insert emotion while they manipulate their medium.
A guitar player is equally capable of making emotional/unemotional music with a guitar as a synth programmer is capable of making emotional/unemotional music with a synthesizer.

Cyxeris · Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 1125 Location: Louisville, KY

I agree, but one has to admit that the effort necessary to pull an equally emotional performance out of a synthesizer with a sequencer, for instance, is an order of magnitude beyond that of a guitar. I am a guitarist/bassist as well as a composer and synthesist, and I can attest to that.

However, the flip side is that the control available to you, and the vast range of tonal possibilities available in the electronic world, while overwhelming, offer the individual incomprehensibly more options with regards to expression, but an equivalent increase in effort required to achieve it.

And, of course, to each their medium. Remember that the introduction of the piano ushered in a torrent of criticisms and general nastiness amongst established musicians, for precisely the same reasons our work in the electronic world has a tendency to be so detested by some. I think that it is safe to say that the academics and such really have absolutely no concept of what we do.

Let each man exercise the art he knows.
-Aristophanes

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:47 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:55 am Post subject:

seraph · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 8:22 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 8:27 am Post subject:

Rated as an endangered species by the WWF?

Panda-demics? Shocked

anyway.. great point you made.. Very Happy

mosc · Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:30 am Post subject:

Cyxeris · Joined: Oct 30, 2003 Posts: 1125 Location: Louisville, KY

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jkn · Joined: Mar 14, 2004 Posts: 469 Location: La Porte, IN, USA

Trolling for old threads again... this one is really nice.

I still say I don't care what instrument we're talking about - they're all just tools and in the right hands can be emotional or flat and dull. I agree - different instruments lend themselves to being more easily manipulated - I can "feel" the strings on my bass much more than the plastic keys on my synth. I can "feel" the weight of the piano keys and coax many different sounds and textures from them. A synth can be sterile in a purely playing a piano patch sense... but then - I'm not trying to mimic a piano on my synth - I want to twist knobs, tweak the filter, do a little pitch bend - lay into the keys harder and trigger the aftertouch. It's all in how someone approaches an instrument.

In one of the other threads someone mentioned that you don't play a piano, rhodes, and B3 the same way. Absolutely - even though they all have the same basic keys - the way you play them is different. Personally - I can't really make a B3 sing - though I've seen people just crank on them. I can play a piano or a rhodes though... I'd love a rhodes in the basement... Smile

Anyway - yeah - this is an old thread - but I liked what everyone wrote and wanted to bring it back out front again.

Cheers,

John

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject:

"threads never die, the just rest.."

Very Happy

seraph · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:45 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject:

Well.. seems like Kerry is ending the thread for the dubya.. should we give the ex-president a Casio and get him over here for some mushroom sessions? Nah.. he will probably stuff the mushrooms up his nose.. well.. anyway.. Shocked

seraph · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:10 pm Post subject:

dubya stands for "politician with dubious diction", right Question

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:17 pm Post subject:

Scary! Well.. he will hardly be out of a job for long. I guess North Korea will hire him as a PR agent. That would make thermo-nuclear war seem like an act of love.

seraph · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject:

the question we should ask him to answer as North Corean PR are:

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:33 pm Post subject:

I think that covers most of the issues.. dunno .. but North Korea might be turned into a theme park by Disney. A hell of a ride?!

Shocked

seraph · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject:

Have you ever noticed dubya's pronunciation of the word: "nuclear" Question

he pronounces it: "nucular" Shocked

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject:

He also has another speech impediment.. he goes "weapons of mass destruction" and "huh... me?" whenever most people would have discussed important world issues. Tourette? Drugs? Both?

mosc · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:59 pm Post subject:

Now, boys, let's keep this OT.

I heard last night on TV from a former Prime Mister of Canada this. When the head of the interim Iraqi government visited Bush recently he was asked what they talked about. He said, "I explained to him that there are three different types of Muslims living in Iraq." Shocked

elektro80 · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject:

My my... so there are three kinds of muslims in Iraq.. waddya know..
Shocked

Yup.. keep this OT!

Will dubya get reelected if he figures out there are muslims in Canada and then handles this in a decisive and firm manner? Canada would be a fitting name for a carpark? One would of course have to get rid of all the green stuff and the moose and the rest?

mosc · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject:

Oh, God.

We need to keep Canada free. Canada is more important than most people imagine. If we could only get CBC on American cable then we'd see some improvement here.

paul e. · Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject:

cbc..no no no

Canadian Blah/Boring Corporation

but hey, if the fantasy of canada being the liberal, happy, clean polite, semi-enlightened place some americans make it out to be makes you sleep better..be my guest hehehe

but it ain't true...