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casperelectronics

Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Troy Ny usa
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject:
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| I received my white envelope and pcb in great shape. Thanks! |
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tommi

Joined: Dec 05, 2007 Posts: 247 Location: Italy
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Has anyone tried installing individual trigger inputs for all three voices? |
I like your idea ! Surely this mod could add something more to the MPS.
I am really curious ! If you do that please post some sample !
I am too late o try that because I 've got case and panel ready and I got no space to add even two more jacks... _________________ http://soundcloud.com/mister-vommi
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bugfight

Joined: Aug 02, 2007 Posts: 188 Location: Arlington, TX USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject:
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| mosc wrote: | ...
Also, you guys that have received them in white envelops - did they arrive OK? |
i got them, and the pcbs are fine,
but the envelope had split open...
thanks for all the effort |
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guitarfool

Joined: Feb 26, 2007 Posts: 163 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject:
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| mosc wrote: | | Also, you guys that have received them in white envelops - did they arrive OK? |
Got mine yesterday - everything was fine. PCB's are pretty durable, especially with more than one taped together like you did with mine. I've gotten quite a few over the years from all over the planet packaged that way without a problem, although cardboard mailers or bubble mailers certainly reduce the anxiety of the sender  |
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recompas

Joined: Jun 06, 2005 Posts: 16 Location: Charlottesville, VA
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:44 am Post subject:
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Got mine a few days ago, arrived in great shape. Just about to order all the parts I need. Has anybody come up with a nice panel layout yet? I'm thinking of sticking it in a 2U rack case. _________________ http://www.recompas.com |
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johans121

Joined: Jun 19, 2007 Posts: 178 Location: Huntsville, AL (USA)
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject:
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| mosc wrote: | | Also, you guys that have received them in white envelops - did they arrive OK? |
I got mine a couple days ago! The envelope & contents were intact (however it looked as if someone sprayed coffee all over the envelope ) _________________ Don't feed me Indian, you WILL regret it!
-Jim |
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mosc
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Joined: Jan 31, 2003 Posts: 18325 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject:
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| johans121 wrote: | I got mine a couple days ago! The envelope & contents were intact (however it looked as if someone sprayed coffee all over the envelope ) |
Ha ha. That was me... At least is was good coffee... Yours was shipped in a plastic CD mailer because there were so many boards. _________________ --Howard
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casperelectronics

Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Troy Ny usa
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject:
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| tommi wrote: | | Quote: | | Has anyone tried installing individual trigger inputs for all three voices? |
I like your idea ! Surely this mod could add something more to the MPS.
I am really curious ! If you do that please post some sample !
I am too late o try that because I 've got case and panel ready and I got no space to add even two more jacks... |
I've stopped worrying about making nice panels because of situations like this. I always want to add more stuff and if I have a "perfect" panel, there's no room for additions. I figure function wins over beauty.
I'll post pics and sounds when I'm done.
I also want to provide outs for individual sounds as well as a mix rather than the current 3 out, 3 in to mixer configuration. So instead it would just be 4 outputs. would I need to add opamp multipliers for each of the 3 signals, one to mixer, one to output? or could I just jump an output from each mixer input? |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Joined: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 4761 Location: Sydney, Australia
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casperelectronics

Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Troy Ny usa
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject:
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| Uncle Krunkus wrote: | Here's my front panel.
I've also got the original photoshop doc if you're e-mail can handle it (about 16MB) |
Uncle Krunk,
what are the Noise and Impact CV for? I only see CV in the schematic for shell. . . although on closer inspection it looks like it's easy to add CV in where "sweep" and "pitch"(or filter cut for the noise circuit)join. is it possible to add any ring mod CV inputs? |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject:
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It is theoretically possible to add a number of extra CV inputs,.....
BUT,...... (yes, I know, everybody's got a big but )
Thomas expressly and emphatically warned against this, as you run the risk of sending too much current into the LM1300 control inputs.
I have employed a basic way of doing what you described, but it is not fully tested, and I think, as Thomas stated, that if I were to accidently send large or negative voltages in there, I would release the precious smoke from some chips!
Therefore, experiment if you like, but you're on your own. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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casperelectronics

Joined: Feb 13, 2008 Posts: 23 Location: Troy Ny usa
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject:
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| Uncle Krunkus wrote: | It is theoretically possible to add a number of extra CV inputs,.....
BUT,...... (yes, I know, everybody's got a big but )
Thomas expressly and emphatically warned against this, as you run the risk of sending too much current into the LM1300 control inputs.
I have employed a basic way of doing what you described, but it is not fully tested, and I think, as Thomas stated, that if I were to accidently send large or negative voltages in there, I would release the precious smoke from some chips!
Therefore, experiment if you like, but you're on your own. |
You're not talking about RingMod CVs right... You mean Impact and Filter CV???
Aren't these the dangerous CV inputs that you have on your' faceplate?
If so what have you done to avoid certain destruction. I'm not knowledgeable enough to poke around and see what happens... I'm sure I'd break something.. |
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Uncle Krunkus
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject:
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I don't want to inadvertantly promote the idea of anyone doing it unless they know enough to design the appropriate interface circuit. Which I have only half done on my version. That's why it is vulnerable to me plugging in too much juice.
So, like I said, you're on your own.
I would recommend building it just as it is first, and check out everything it can do, (it can do a lot) before you look at possible modifications. _________________ What makes a space ours, is what we put there, and what we do there. |
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mosc
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Joined: Jan 31, 2003 Posts: 18325 Location: Durham, NC
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject:
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Update: As of this moment, all of the MPS boards have been shipped out, except one order which has an error in the address. Everyone should have received an email from the store's software to the effect that your order has been shipped. If you ordered a board or boards, as of this time, and haven't received an email message, please send me a heads up via PM.
Shipping out 200 packages and filling out 100 customs forms is a duty only for Zen masters.
There are still more in stock.
Anyhow, it really is a labor of love and the money helps keep the wheels turning on the site. _________________ --Howard
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vtl5c3
Joined: Sep 08, 2006 Posts: 425 Location: PDX
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject:
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Thank you Roshi Mosc! I got my confirmation earlier this evening.
| mosc wrote: | Update: As of this moment, all of the MPS boards have been shipped out, except one order which has an error in the address. Everyone should have received an email from the store's software to the effect that your order has been shipped. If you ordered a board or boards, as of this time, and haven't received an email message, please send me a heads up via PM.
Shipping out 200 packages and filling out 100 customs forms is a duty only for Zen masters.
There are still more in stock.
Anyhow, it really is a labor of love and the money helps keep the wheels turning on the site. |
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bugbrand

Joined: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 846 Location: Bristol, UK
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toybox

Joined: Aug 03, 2005 Posts: 176 Location: chicago/peru,illinois usa
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recompas

Joined: Jun 06, 2005 Posts: 16 Location: Charlottesville, VA
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:41 am Post subject:
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Yes, thanks to Howard and everyone responsible for this board. I really can't wait to get mine together next week.
Uncle K, i'd love to get the PSD file from you. Its a nice layout, and would save me a lot of time on my case (i'd just have to move things around slightly).
i'll PM you with my email.
-travis _________________ http://www.recompas.com |
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mosc
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:12 am Post subject:
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| bugbrand wrote: | | I can just about imagine the headaches of keeping track of such a large batch of orders and getting all the work done... |
I'm starting to use http://stamps.com. It's saving lots of time at the post office. It will even print customs forms, but I haven't tried that yet. It's all that cost vs. time trade off. _________________ --Howard
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tommi

Joined: Dec 05, 2007 Posts: 247 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject:
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I 'm waiting for the PCBs... now they're on the dark side of the moon.
Thank you Howard, Thomas, Scott and everybody involved in this project for doing all this work to share it with us. _________________ http://soundcloud.com/mister-vommi
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oneoff

Joined: Nov 23, 2008 Posts: 47
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject:
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just got the pcb today! super fast shipping. thanks!!
BTW
does anybody know where can i get the wiring guide (for the front pannel
and for the pcb connections?
cheers  |
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tommi

Joined: Dec 05, 2007 Posts: 247 Location: Italy
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject:
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Hi oneoff,
There is a post by bugbrand on page 8 of this thread. It's the same of the pictures of his completed MPS. There you can find an attachement called 'MPS wiring'. I'm assuming this is the actual pinout of the board. Please correct me if I'm wrong. _________________ http://soundcloud.com/mister-vommi
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Rykhaard
Joined: Sep 02, 2007 Posts: 1290 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject:
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This notification of realization and discovery from me applies to any and everyone out there that are intending on building drum voices, wishing to play them by hand as well!
I just completed shooting a video, using Ray Wilson's Drum Trigger from his site at: http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth/SOUNDLABMINISYNTH/drum_trigger.html
I already have a couple of piezo transducers that I had bought a few years ago, but the other day I realized that I would need MORE once I get my 2 MPSes and coming SDS3 drum voices built. 2 just isn't enough, for playing an electronic drum kit.
I originally realized that almost anything nowadays that makes bleepy bloopy noises, MIGHT have a piezo transducer IN it. If I were to somehow search around and scoop up every device that I could for as cheap as possible, I could then save having to spend anywhere between $2-5 for each piezo transducer from Radio Shack (The Source, here in Canada).
On the weekend when we were heading to the local Dollar Store I thought - maybe THEY will have cheap digital alarm clocks in stock! Hey! And sure enough - when we went in a found a HUGE pile of digital alarm clocks for $1 each! I bought one and brought it home.
Today, I got my first PnP'd version of Ray's circuit built, adding a pot to it to change the length of the Decay CV coming from it.
Opening the alarm clock I found that it DOES have a normal piezo transducer! $1!! And it's working PERFECTLY! Later in the week, I'll be heading back to the dollar store to pick up at LEAST 10 more of them, as I also intend to build a percussive pad set for playing 1V/octave notes, for my coming drum kit.
Tonight after work, or tomorrow morning, I'll have the 4 minute video that I should of myself hammering away on the alarm clock (who's piezo is attached to Ray's circuit) which is driving my Liquid Hihat - which I'm also adjusting the sound of near the end, before accidentally shutting off the camera.
I hope this is useful news to someone out there who will be building your own pads! This is one of the happiest discoveries that I've made in a LONG time! CHEAP piezo transducers! Get your digital alarm clock and rip the piezo out of it! Who NEEDS alarms, anyways? Or head to the Dollar Store nearest you and grab a few!
K - video later. Off to work.  |
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Apps
Joined: Oct 31, 2008 Posts: 1 Location: Harrisburg, PA
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject:
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| mosc wrote: | Update:
I'm getting behind on shipping out the boards. I'm a bit overwhelmed , but this is a good problem.
I apologize for the delays.
Also, you guys that have received them in white envelops - did they arrive OK? |
Got mine today, thanks! The white envelope was slit, along the board edge, at the top of the envelope, and the board was (barely) still inside. My guess (from spending time inside a mail handling facility) is that the automatic sorters' pressure is enough to slice the paper when they grab the envelopes.
Very nice quality board, indeed. Is there a quick layout reference for gazinta/gazouta pins?
Don |
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oneoff

Joined: Nov 23, 2008 Posts: 47
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject:
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hey Rykhaard this is great information for me , i was just thinking of using some of those piezo transducer but i dont know exactly how..
it also brings so many questions like where do i connect it? to the "trigger in"?(also what is the "triger in" used for in the mps?)
is it supposed to be connected to the cv ins?
and if i connect the piezo transducers as my mps controller , so what i have is 3 pads only? |
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