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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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seraph: I also hate software mixing. It takes me 4 times as long to dial in the sound I'm looking for. With hardware I just reach up, twist this, dial up that, and I'm done. Creature of habit I suppose.

I understand what you mean but what about automation? I find it extremely interesting Idea

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Carlo? A fit of automation? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

elektro80 wrote:
Carlo? A fit of automation? Very Happy

well.....
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Main Entry: fit
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English fitt strife
1 a : a sudden violent attack of a disease (as epilepsy) especially when marked by convulsions or unconsciousness : PAROXYSM b : a sudden but transient attack of a physical disturbance
2 : a sudden burst or flurry (as of activity) <cleaned the whole house in a fit of efficiency>
3 : an emotional reaction (as in anger or frustration) <has a fit when I show up late>
- by fits or by fits and starts or in fits and starts : in an impulsive and irregular manner

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automation seems an excellent idea, to me Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mmmm.... right Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Speaking of automation. I use Sonar with a MotorMix. This is a pretty good way of getting the best of both worlds. Sonar doesn't use the MotorMix as well as it could, but it's not half bad, or better said maybe, it better than half good. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
7 wrote:
seraph: I also hate software mixing. It takes me 4 times as long to dial in the sound I'm looking for. With hardware I just reach up, twist this, dial up that, and I'm done. Creature of habit I suppose.

I understand what you mean but what about automation? I find it extremely interesting Idea


As most of my stuff is synths/sampler controlled by midi, I can adjust volume however I want in midi.

If I need to go nuts with something I can record it and mutate that track once it hits sonar.

The only thing I'd like to see is a complete wipe of all console settings (EQ, fx sends, ect) or complete saves of projects. That would be cool. But I'm more into the creative process of resetting the console when I open an old project. Not hearing the track how it was when I left it will often give me new ideas to go forward with. the way I figure it, if I didn't finish it the first time then I must have run out of ideas. Starting with a clean console forces me to mix everything again which more often then not triggers new ideas.

So I'll avoid something that can save entire project setting for the time being.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sigh, I have such a small and insegnificant setup compared to most of you! Wink



-Etienne, who has started using Ableton Live now
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Sigh, I have such a small and insegnificant setup compared to most of you! Wink

it's not a matter of how many things you own but if you know how to squeeze creativity from what you got
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-Etienne, who has started using Ableton Live now

hey...I am a Live user too Exclamation Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:

it's not a matter of how many things you own but if you know how to squeeze creativity from what you got

Well said!!!!

OK, Carlo, tell me; you use Logic, I know what that does. It's pretty close to Sonar. If you use Logic, what do you need Live for? What functions are unique to it?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yep - music isn't a "person with the most toys, wins" type of thing. Plenty of amazing musicians with virtually nothing.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Carlo, tell me; you use Logic, I know what that does. It's pretty close to Sonar. If you use Logic, what do you need Live for? What functions are unique to it?

as the name implies, Live has been built to be used as an instrument that you play "live". It does not necessarily have a linear approach to recording:
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Combine loops, phrases, complete songs and audio recordings of any tempo in a single Live Set.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well I finally got a digital camera (that I don't know how to use very well yet) so here's a dark, fuzzy picture of my setup:

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and the cube that does most of the work:

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and of course all artists must have at least one other mammal around:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The cat has a profound look on its face. Sorta like "this human is sad. He needs all this shit to be happy."

The setup looks very nice. That table can probably a ton of stuff.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

How about my studio (aka Sonsabitch Studios, CA):

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HI-FI, baby!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey, Ponk. Do you get enough stereo separation with the speakers pointed at each other like that? What kind of effect are you getting with that arrangement?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is that black and grey thing in the middle of the speakers a mic? if so, I've never seen anything like that, does that set up sound good?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

No, it does NOT sound good. It's hard to say anything about the stereo separation, because it hisses and buzzes so much that almost nothing else gets recorded. And yes, it is a mic in the middle... well, kind of, it isn't meant for recording any kind of instrument, but it's the only one we got Wink We get a ture evil black metal effect from it (I've been toying with the idea of recording a black metal album with an answering machine Smile) We are using this set up for recording some extreme lo-fi guitar&bass noise...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ponk wrote:
I've been toying with the idea of recording a black metal album with an answering machine Smile)

let me know when it's ready

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We are using this set up for recording some extreme lo-fi guitar&bass noise...

no doubts about it Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I'm new around these parts too, heres my junk....

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hey,

if this is turning into a "show me yours, and I'll show you mine" thread kinda thing...

Here's my setup:

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Three wetsuits and a humble repository of gear.

-diskonext

PS. the MicroModular is blatantly absent, picture the little red devil somewhere at 3 o'clock to the mixing desk.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Da mess. I call it "Signal Automatique" after a name sign graciously donated by the french railways. The bass is sleeping over for a while, I´m trying to play it. I´m quite good at it for somebody who has been trying to play it for a month and has had no lessons. Ok, I suck.

Not visible is the desktop used for browsing just off the left edge, the mandatory double turntables and a stack of somewhat modified childeren´s toys and stuff. There are also a couple more rack modules hidden behind the laptop. Recently I gave the laptop a second monitor which is quite usefull but I can´t be bothered to take a up to date picture.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I like this thread, it's so good to see I'm not the only one who seems to be fighting a constant battle with my studio. My main problem is lack of space, too much gear and not enough time, shouldn't complain though Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-3932.html
that's a link to some photos of my studio few months ago. in the mean time I sold a few things (G4, Virus C, MU100R, SU10, PC1600X, Ozone) and bought new ones (iMacG5, BCR2000, BCF2000, FW1814)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

cloudscapes wrote:
Sigh, I have such a small and insegnificant setup compared to most of you! Wink



-Etienne, who has started using Ableton Live now





How do you like that Drehbank? What do you control with it? Reaktor ? Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OMG I am so jealous of you guys...

I feel like a really small fish, hopelessly lost in a tankful of hardware sharks...

No photo from me (it's really not worth it), just a list:

Hardware:
P4 3Mhz PC, 512 Mb RAM (onboard soundchip - ugh)
Roland E-16 (used for MIDI control only)

Software:
Ableton Live!
Sonar
FLStudio
Absynth
FM7
100s more VST synths & fx

Nearly all my stuff was free, either given to me by kind benefactors or found on streetcorners, or in second-hand stores. All in all (with the exception of 1 or 2 software packages) my entire setup cost me around $100.

Still, my first big expenditure is on it's way: I wanted a Novation X-Station (the small 2 octave version), but then I found an almost exact copy of it in the form of a MIDI controller for about half the price (also from Novation)...so that is no1 on my shoppping list!

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