How to make banks and performances on the G2 Engine

Rare Bird Productions

I just bought the G2 Engine and started experimenting. I have to say I love the sounds, but one disadventage of the Engine is though, the manual isn't really written with the Engine in mind.
It's hard to find out how to work with banks, patches and performances. I have several multi-timbral synthesizers and I don't have troubles with any of them. The whole terminology of the G2 leaves me in ridles. With most synthesizers performance is the same as multi, meaning selecting midi-channels in use and each channel functions as a seperate instrument, all loading patches from the same memory-bank. I want to do something simular with the Engine. Don't get this to work properly.
How can I make a bank with only the sounds I use in a certain song? And how do I combine this with performances?
With my other synthesizers I have one dedicated performance-setup which basicly says which midi-channels are used.

blue hell · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject:

Welcome zeldzame vogel.

Probably best that a keyboard player explains this to you, not that I don't know my way around but I'd probably use the wrong words and lead you into utter confusion.

Just wanted to say welcome and advise you be sure to have the 1.2 manual (not that it will help much for your problem, indeed it has a lot of attention for the keys-version - almost everything that is possible on the keys version can be done through the editor as well)

Jan.

Axiom · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject:

hmmm a stupid question... did you used the Editor?

Luca

Rare Bird Productions · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:42 pm Post subject:

Rix · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject:

Well... the closest thing to a bank on the G2 IS the performance.
In a perfomance you can have 4 different sounds on 4 different midi channels. Not much, but then the G2 is not to be compared with a GM module or other midi synths.

If 4 channels is not enough in a sing you could probably switch to another bank (performance) via midi, but this still leaves you with a maximum of 4 different sounds.

Richard

Unfed · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject:

welcome, glad to see you followed my suggestion from the Yahoo group. there are a good handful of Engine users here that should be able to help you out. owning the G2 keys myself, i'd feel as lost as you if i were using the Engine. i think G2 keys owners take the UI for granted a bit (?). performance (multi-timbral) mode does seem a bit confusing compared to other hardware synths. to start out, open a 'new' performance in the editor. this gives you four blank slots for your multi setup. now you can use the 'open to >' function to call up whichever patch you want into each slot. i think you have to use the 'window' function to switch between the four slots while editing. midi channels for each slot in a performance can be set in the global settings for the synth. key splits, etc can be done in the 'performance/settings' window. once you're done, save the performance as a .prf file on your computer and on the synth itself. there's got to be a list of bank/program changes for using the Engine away from the Editor, not sure what they are. must be a way to switch between patch/performance modes as well. hope this helps some...

mosc · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject:

Unfed · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:09 pm Post subject:

i don't think he was saying that the original question was stupid. another way to say it would be 'hmmm an obvious question i'd ask is... did you used the Editor?'. i don't think he meant to be too disrespectful... Laughing

zynthetix · Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:34 pm Post subject:

as far as saving in banks, check in the editor menu Synth : save in synth

You mentioned that performance mode is like multi mode....this is accurate. Slots A- D are assigned to Midi Channels 1-4 respectively (by default, you could change this). However, when you are in performance mode, any patches in the selected (highlighted) slots are saved as ONE performance "patch". there are entirely different banks for performance mode , not to be confused with patch mode.

when you click "save in synth", it will go to a performance bank that can only be saved or accessed when in performance mode.

hope this helps you with your question. happy patching

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Nodular · Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 2:47 am Post subject:

Hi everyone,
my first post, as a brand new G2X owner (1 week Laughing

), in this great forum!
About the topic:
I'm using an old sequencing software called Voyetra Midi Orchestrator Plus.
On this sw, you choose banks, setting a param called LSB (Last Significant Byte).
LSB=0 -> Bank=1
I don't know if other sw call this param the same...

bye