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Afro88

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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject:
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| I did some FFT plots in the high frequency thread over here |
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Afro88

Joined: Jun 20, 2004 Posts: 701 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject:
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Ok, I don't mean to be a killjoy, but v1.32 and v1.40 waldorf pulse plots are exactly the same
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monokit

Joined: Apr 14, 2004 Posts: 102 Location: Netherlands
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G2DREAM

Joined: Apr 27, 2005 Posts: 171 Location: Athens,Greece
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:18 am Post subject:
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http://www.clavia.se/news/G2mutapress.htm
Hi guys, some quotes of yours about the 1.40 version are on the clavia site!
You are now famous! So is electro-music G2 forum!
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Tranceparent

Joined: Dec 11, 2005 Posts: 36 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:52 am Post subject:
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It would be a crime not to discover us, coz there are over 2000 Clavia fans in this forum...!  |
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monobass

Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 275 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:14 am Post subject:
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| Afro88 wrote: | Ok, I don't mean to be a killjoy, but v1.32 and v1.40 waldorf pulse plots are exactly the same  |
Hehe.. ok..
I wonder if the settings with my oscilloscope were different.
What pitch was that? I found those resonant peaks were non-existant down low. _________________ Steve |
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BobTheDog

Joined: Feb 28, 2005 Posts: 4044 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:34 am Post subject:
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| G2DREAM wrote: | http://www.clavia.se/news/G2mutapress.htm
Hi guys, some quotes of yours about the 1.40 version are on the clavia site!
You are now famous! So is electro-music G2 forum!
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Fame for calling myself a synth idiot, who would have believed it! |
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wyleu

Joined: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 41 Location: Sandbach,Cheshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:09 am Post subject:
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It appears Clavia do read the site then.
That's that sorted out then  _________________ Taz says:- 'My Sub My Rules' |
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G2DREAM

Joined: Apr 27, 2005 Posts: 171 Location: Athens,Greece
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:05 am Post subject:
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| BobTheDog wrote: | | G2DREAM wrote: | http://www.clavia.se/news/G2mutapress.htm
Hi guys, some quotes of yours about the 1.40 version are on the clavia site!
You are now famous! So is electro-music G2 forum!
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Fame for calling myself a synth idiot, who would have believed it! |
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Kassen
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:16 am Post subject:
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Yeah, the big difference is that the 1.32 AA is the same on each cycle where 1.4 varies (at least when the wave frequency is not an exact multiple of the sample rate). |
I think it'd be more correct to phrase it the other way around (sample rare and wave frequency) but yeah. That's something we're never going to get around though. _________________ Kassen |
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AngusHastie
Joined: Aug 04, 2004 Posts: 136 Location: London, England
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject:
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| BobTheDog wrote: | | Fame for calling myself a synth idiot, who would have believed it! |
Bob - don't worry. I'm now officially a clueless person, and proud of it! |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24513 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject:
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| AngusHastie wrote: | | BobTheDog wrote: | | Fame for calling myself a synth idiot, who would have believed it! |
Bob - don't worry. I'm now officially a clueless person, and proud of it! |
In that case I'd insist Clavia would put names with the quotes  _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Afro88

Joined: Jun 20, 2004 Posts: 701 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:
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Woooo, I'm famous!!... in an anonymous kind of way  |
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jamos

Joined: Jun 01, 2004 Posts: 514 Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:29 pm Post subject:
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I've decided to hold back on my dissing of this new feature for a bit. Especially since I haven't had time to play with it yet (prepping for NAMM the day it came in, and just got back...)
But what was most eye opening to me was someone's comment about spending hours programming a new patch only to have it sound like sh*t.. I have a few of those lying around myself. :') If it can rescue them it will be worth having. |
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jksuperstar

Joined: Aug 20, 2004 Posts: 2503 Location: Denver
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:23 am Post subject:
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Ok, if all else fails, eye candy rules. While editing a patch with the Mutator open, the DNA worm adjusts in real time. FUN!
Also on a few patches I use alot, I have a feel for what children will be interesting or not based on what the DNA worm looks like, it's very intuitive. It makes very surprising sounds with additive synths and chaos based patches. Chaos can be so touchy to turn many knobs by hand to get attractors that work (much less sound pleasant), but plowing through children quickly makes it fun to find new attractors.
Ok, I just typed "plowing through children." I guess the G in G2 stands for genocide. |
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W.T.

Joined: Jul 11, 2004 Posts: 272 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:49 am Post subject:
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i think the 1.40 sounds much transparent than 1.32. i am very pleased with this, more than a few new models good.  |
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Cannonball

Joined: Sep 29, 2004 Posts: 11 Location: Chelmsford, England
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:52 am Post subject:
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It's interesting to read everyone's opinions of the mutator. I've found it very useful for getting good results from patches which I don't find particularly intuitive or easy to program myself. I've had some good results so far on FM patches and also on Tim's additive synth patch posted a year or so ago - very nice pads and textures. I've also managed to generate some very interesting sequences from what started out as semi-random noodles.
I guess it all depends on your approach to synthesis. I've always liked the "found sound" approach whereas some people are obviously more interested in creating and sculpting their own sounds with a set goal in mind. |
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Tim Kleinert
Joined: Mar 12, 2004 Posts: 1148 Location: Zürich, Switzerland
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject:
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| W.T. wrote: | i think the 1.40 sounds much transparent than 1.32. i am very pleased with this, more than a few new models good.  |
Yes -I heard they reworked some DSP code. Now, THAT's good news. For me at least.
Because -I really don't care much about the Mutator. |
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Fozzie

Joined: Jun 04, 2004 Posts: 875 Location: Near Wageningen, the Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject:
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I was actually still a bit sceptical about this supposed 'enhanced clarity' or whatever it may be. But as I am playing some old patches into my trusty old headphones tonight, I saw ehhh heard the light as well
It really seems to be more spacious (I even checked my soundcard to see that I had no fx on; though it didn't sound like that), clearer and more 'me likes'  |
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jksuperstar

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject:
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Hmmm...regarding this whole clarity & improved DSP: I'm reminded of an old cereal commercial, where these kids are trying to get their little brother mike to taste the cereal, and he doesn't like "anything". In the end, "Mike-y Likes it!".
So, whose willing to pass their synth over to Kassen?  |
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cebec

Joined: Apr 19, 2004 Posts: 1100 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject:
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| jksuperstar wrote: | So, whose willing to pass their synth over to Kassen?  |
haha, yep... the 'real' test...
tim; where'd you hear they reworked the DSP code? |
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varice

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Yes -I heard they reworked some DSP code. Now, THAT's good news. For me at least. |
No teasing Tim, you have to tell us all you know about any DSP code tweaking! _________________ varice |
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monobass

Joined: Nov 30, 2004 Posts: 275 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject:
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| varice wrote: | | Quote: | | Yes -I heard they reworked some DSP code. Now, THAT's good news. For me at least. |
No teasing Tim, you have to tell us all you know about any DSP code tweaking! |
Imagine if they announced stuff like that months in advance like the patch mutator.. I reckon some people would start going a bit insane.. and then afterwards you'd get people turning it on and going 'I HATE IT, I HATE IT, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE???'
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Kassen
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject:
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I'm sorry but I can't be your guinie(sp?) pig right now. I'm in Canada on a sort of vacation and will only be back in a week. After that I can have a good listen to the difference if need be. I'd be quite curious to hear what caused this difference anyway, could it be another update to those configurable filters in the DAC's?
I had a look at the new stuff at Rob's place already and I have to say I'm not too hot on it myself. Those meta-parameters do make sense for simple substractive synths but considdering how many substractive synths there are out there I personally never saw any point to using the Modulars for that stuff. The recent talk of using the mutator on rithmic paterns instead of on synthesis does sound like it might get interesting but on a broader level I so far think that this implementation of genetic algorithems is overly simplistic and seems to scale badly. Still; it's a revolutionary concept and there are bound to be "childhood illnesses" to it and I'm very much interested in where this sort of thing could go. _________________ Kassen |
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dasz

Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1644 Location: victoria, canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject:
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Kassen, where in Canada are you, West coast or not?
/Dasz |
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