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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What's the worst that could happen? Blood sprayed all over the room. Deregistration? I don't know. I'm only a doctor. A drum doctor it's true, but still only a doctor. If I knew everything then it would be impossible for anyone to sue me for malpractice! Insurance premiums would plummet! I wouldn't be able to justify the outrageous fees that I charge! Rolling Eyes
Actually, speaking of fees, is your account current? I'll put your invoice in the mail tomorrow! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Uncle Krunkus wrote:
PS Short answer: - Not sure. Embarassed


hehe 0k I'll try and see what happens Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi!

Here's a PCB layout for the DS8 if anyone needs it. It's for the CA3080 though.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks Pehr.

do you have the parts layout too?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Pehr wrote:
Is it really neccesary with log pots on the DS7? Confused


I just found out how you can make log pots from linear ones. Very Happy

Just connect the wiper to one of the sides of the pot via a resistor like in this page http://sound.westhost.com/project01.htm . Cool

So my 100k linear pots with a 100k resistor connected this ways becomes a 50k log pot which is perfect for the DS7! Twisted Evil

Why have I never thought of this Question Shocked

It's just:

Rtot = Rres*Rpot/(Rres + Rpot),

which is a log curve when Rpot varies... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dnny wrote:
do you have the parts layout too?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

thanks pehr.

i didn't know i was so blind that i haven't seen that discointellect had all ready posted that - sorry cyclops

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

nisios wrote:
is there any possibility of putting attack on these things with a simple mod?


Maybe like this?

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or this?:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

dnny wrote:
thanks pehr.

i didn't know i was so blind that i haven't seen that discointellect had all ready posted that - sorry cyclops


no problemo ^_^
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Alright, i've gone and done it now. Finally got two out of four finished, with parts on the way for the other half! Also managed to kludge the board a bit for PCB mounted pots. I have a pdf of the layout if anyone's interested. Here's a pic of the twins:
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goodrevdoc wrote:
I have a pdf of the layout if anyone's interested.


I'm always interested Very Happy

Nice work! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here ya go Pehr!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Another question:

On the DS8-schematic there is a resistor (R31) with value "NC". Does it mean "no connection" or should I just use the same value as i the DS7 (220k)? Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Generally that means not connected, so as just a guess, i would leave it out. the worst that can happen is that it wont work.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

goodrevdoc wrote:
Generally that means not connected, so as just a guess, i would leave it out. the worst that can happen is that it wont work.
-justin


0k, thanks! Smile

I wonder why it isn't removed on the DS7 schematic though... Confused

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yet another question:

How is the envelope generator affected if I would use 4.7uF caps instead of 3.3uF?

My guess it would just make the decay time a little bit longer, right?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Yeah, probably just a bit longer, but would it also raise the minimum decay time? Nah, it looks like that's set by R3. Also the other cap is for the sweep control, so changing it wouldn't affect the decay.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks again! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: ds7
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hi....im new....i just completed the DS7 on a breadboard, and am ready for testing! seems you can pull C2 3u3/sweep and it makes no audible difference ........i think tomorrow ill try the attack decay mod.....any requests?!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject: Re: ds7
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scorpiistar wrote:
hi....im new....i just completed the DS7 on a breadboard, and am ready for testing! seems you can pull C2 3u3/sweep and it makes no audible difference ........i think tomorrow ill try the attack decay mod.....any requests?!


And? Did it the attack mod work out?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi, just a few comments and whatever...
a decoupling cap (or two) is a good idea. I had a horrible highpitched squeal going on that a 100nF cap across the power rails got rid of.
I don't know what power supply others are using but I'm using 15 volts... and that regulator gets hot. Painful hot. Heatsink is also a good idea. I made one out of a tin can; works fine.
anyone sort out the volume problem? Is it because a 5volt module just can't put out the same levels as ones using +/-15? I have the same problem with the wasp filter. Anyone point me towards a transistor amplifier?
I'll give some of the different mods a go tomorrow, see if there's anything else to add... and thanks to all involved for this module.
Andrew.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

6079smith wrote:
anyone sort out the volume problem? Is it because a 5volt module just can't put out the same levels as ones using +/-15? I have the same problem with the wasp filter. Anyone point me towards a transistor amplifier?


You could try reducing the resistor between the CA3080 output and the pot (don't go lower than ~ 2K,) or increase the 100K feedback resistor from the '3080 ouput to the - input.

I don't know about the wasp.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks for the response... I've actually tried both of these. Even raised the feedback resistor to 10M(!) with no real difference. Oh well, back to the drawing board...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

6079smith wrote:

I don't know what power supply others are using but I'm using 15 volts... and that regulator gets hot. Painful hot. Heatsink is also a good idea. I made one out of a tin can; works fine.
anyone sort out the volume problem? Is it because a 5volt module just can't put out the same levels as ones using +/-15? I have the same problem with the wasp filter. Anyone point me towards a transistor amplifier?
I'll give some of the different mods a go tomorrow, see if there's anything else to add... and thanks to all involved for this module.
Andrew.


Have you tried lowering the voltage to 12 or 9v?

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