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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:23 am    Post subject: new virus TI series!! Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I wrote some words and some pics plus link to more info..
most is in german.. I will update the english text soon Wink

http://www.sequencer.de/dsynth/virus.html

maybe it's of interest anyway..

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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The new TI products link to your computer with VIRUSControl™, a companion software product which ports the hardware synth into a host sequencer for use as a sample-accurate VST/AU instrument, simultaneously offering 2-way audio and MIDI connectivity, control surface functionality, editor and librarian functions, and more.


This is pretty advanced. Maybe the shape of things to come. Should we expect this in a Clavia G3?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

also think of pluggin in the usb2 and you have averything available in your computer incl. midi and audio signals!

I'd be interested how many synthesizers could be used that way, how long one usb2 port is enough and multi usb2-audioing is possible?..

the very positive thing here is of course the simple way.. the negative is: maybe the audio stuff and virus control plugin will not work after any OS update (tiger, longhorn..)..

but imho it would be another nice thing to have synths integrated this way..
I only hope the audio outs will not go somewhere later,when this becomes the standard Wink .. I don't want to be forced to buy another computer, lots of software any OS-update-period.. since it happend to softsynths often enough..

ok, let do not over-estimate this..
but it's also good to be aware of it..

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

. . . .must have. . . .need money. . . .
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ok, it's on the access site now..
just go there as usual.. no more need to go to my site now..


g3: nope, I do NOT hope for it that soon.. Wink
imo the g2 is enough for now..

but if they do so, it whould be a sample capable usb2 or firefire controlled nord with control from the computer and lots of audio streams that can be processed and interconnected to the computer and NOT OUTDATE when the OS will be outdated.. see the os9 disaster!!..

and if you are fed of it all go for one of these:
http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/plexifilm/moogshorttrailer_ref.mov

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

OKAY. I have two comments.

1) OH, How I wish the G2 editor was as integrated as the Virus.

2) This seems to me like it would be such an amazing G2 companion.

This computer integration is such a simplistically genius idea!!!!

OH PLEASE STUDY WHAT ACCESS HAS DONE CLAVIA!!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

buzz wrote:

This computer integration is such a simplistically genius idea!!!!


I would not be so enthusiastic about it, yet but, if it works, it's a "genius idea" indeed Wink
btw from now on if I'll go for hardware stuff it will have to have this kind of integration with my DAW Idea

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hardware is made for more than 10 years.. but in 10 years we might have tiger, lion and longhorn.. and be sure: there will be a time and the company says: ok, it's discontinued.. we do not re-new our software.. from that point you need an old computer or to "time-freeze" your system..

thats what I always liked on my older synths: they are still working Wink

the virus will work then,too.. but I am sure the plugin integration will be gone .. and trust me: no1 here will buy another virus every year, will you?

I like it, also I like that kind of integration!!

but I am a bit afraid of the fastness of getting old Wink
see : software.. try to use any software from 4 years ago..

software need to be re-bought (updates)..
thats the odd side of it all..

so as long as they do not sacrifice the audio outs it is ok for me..
Wink

btw: the DT virus is at 1800€

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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.. from that point you need an old computer or to "time-freeze" your system..

the violin was "time-freezed" a long time ago and people still play it Cool so what Question

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I am a bit afraid of the fastness of getting old Wink
see : software.. try to use any software from 4 years ago..

besides the fact that not only machines get old at a very fast speed Cool think about using the same software for four years without having to read about upgrades etc. you could have time to actually play Exclamation Idea

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Moogulator wrote:
the DT virus is at 1800€

let me sell a few things and I'll be ready in no time Very Happy
btw anyone needs a fully expanded Roland JV2080 and an Access Virus C desktop Question

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The integration feature is nice, but not necessary. My G2 is directly accessed by my DAW through the MIDI, Audio and USB interfaces. It's pretty transparent in Sonar. Everything is there, it just doesn't go on one cable.

Aside from the integration, how good a synth is the Virus?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

seraph wrote:
Moogulator wrote:
.. from that point you need an old computer or to "time-freeze" your system..

the violin was "time-freezed" a long time ago and people still play it Cool so what Question


guess why: there wasn't a violin B, C or TI Wink
and you did not have to upgrade your bow every year for half the price of the violin Wink finally you have to connect your TI back to audio in ,when the plugin will not run on any new OSX11 driven or longhorned machine, and that could be tomorrow!

at least.. Wink
lets do the timewarp agaaaaain..

engage!

btw: the virus still plays without plugin! thats good!!
but check for the audio engine quality (not just the converters)..

thats what I'd like to hear first when I see one.. Wink

80voices? 16? who cares Wink your violin has less..

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and you did not have to upgrade your bow every year for half the price of the violin Wink

ever heard of Fiberglass Carbon Violin Bows Question Twisted Evil

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mosc wrote:
how good a synth is the Virus?

listen for yourself Exclamation Very Happy
I want a hardware synth programmable as a virtual one, basically an easy path to stardom Shocked

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seraph wrote:
mosc wrote:
how good a synth is the Virus?

listen for yourself Exclamation Very Happy
I want a hardware synth programmable as a virtual one, basically an easy path to stardom Shocked

Thanks for the link. I like the way the set up their demos more than the tracks themselves. Pretty cool use of inbedded flash players.

If you want a hardware synth that is as programmable as a virtual one, then the G2 is the answer, IMHO. But, you already knew that. Twisted Evil

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mosc wrote:
If you want a hardware synth that is as programmable as a virtual one, then the G2 is the answer, IMHO. But, you already knew that. Twisted Evil

you would be right if I were a patcher, but I am not Embarassed

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Does anyone know what the cost of one of these will be?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I like the "desktop" model. Very much like the original NM rack.
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looking carefully at the Virus TI brochures and on the Access web site I have not been able to see mention of the vocoder. There are 2 audio inputs but they never mention this cool feature of previous models. Am I missing something Question
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
I like the "desktop" model. Very much like the original NM rack.


I wrote it on the site (below the pics) Wink
1800-2350€

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Couple things about the Virus TI.... Street price for the Dektop in the US is about $1500 - $1600 (depending on the seller). Access will not allow them to advertise it that low, so they are requiring you request the price. I've got one on order! Wink

The new model will have the vocoder feature. It will have all of the Virus C features (which inludes the vocoder) along with the new ones. I verified this by specifically asking Access and they said "yes".

I'm very curious to see how well the USB2 connection handles all of the audio and midi data.

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SayersWeb wrote:
I've got one on order! Wink


Congratulations...

SayersWeb wrote:
I'm very curious to see how well the USB2 connection handles all of the audio and midi data.


I'd be shocked if it has any problems. USB2 has favorable specs compared to Firewire. I'm sure it'll be able to handle the bandwidth required. Also, it would be death for the company to release this if it didn't work.

Nevertheless, be sure to let us know how well it works when you get it...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

mosc wrote:
Congratulations...
Thanks! I'm very excited about this new synth.

mosc wrote:
I'd be shocked if it has any problems. USB2 has favorable specs compared to Firewire. I'm sure it'll be able to handle the bandwidth required. Also, it would be death for the company to release this if it didn't work.
Yes, I agree. I think Access can pull it off if anyone can.

mosc wrote:
Nevertheless, be sure to let us know how well it works when you get it...
Definitely! I kinda hope it won't arrive for another month so that I have more time to learn the G2x first.
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