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fonik

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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject:
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@bbob
sorry bbob, i'd thought i knw something, in fact it once more turned out that i almost nothing.
@scott
great idea, i will implement this. more functionality without more controls... _________________
cheers,
matthias
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:31 am Post subject:
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if there is any interest i could do a run of professional manufactured PCBs. this is an easy to build project, no obsolete, expensive or hard to find parts.
the board would be about 10.-EUR/14.50USD, providing MTA connectors for all controls. minimum would be 40 advance orders.
so here are the schematics:
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cheers,
matthias
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RF

Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 1502 Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:25 am Post subject:
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Hi fonik -
Sure, I'd go for for a pair of those...
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EdisonRex
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:22 am Post subject:
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I'd go for 2. They look pretty simple too. _________________ Garret: It's so retro.
EGM: What does retro mean to you?
Parker: Like, old and outdated.
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slo

Joined: Feb 18, 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:45 am Post subject:
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I'd go for 1
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amos_joseph

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:55 am Post subject:
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| I'd take two. |
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softfin

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:26 am Post subject:
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I have to say you've handled all your PCB projects in a such a positively exceptional way that it would be simply a pleasure to buy some boards from you once again.
So, two boards for me, please. |
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goodrevdoc

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:32 am Post subject:
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I'd be down for two.
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b-funk

Joined: Jul 17, 2007 Posts: 193 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:57 am Post subject:
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für mich bitte auch 2...
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bubblechamber

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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject:
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| i'll take 4 |
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fluxmonkey
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject:
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| 2 for me, please. |
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insider
Joined: Aug 01, 2007 Posts: 14 Location: france
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject:
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Me too, 2
thanks Fonik |
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bugbrand

Joined: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 846 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:33 am Post subject:
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Such modules are really damn useful! Very good that you're offering PCBs, Mathias. However, I recently DIYed my own slightly different versions (-- two twin attenuvert mixers) so I'm afraid this'll be the first Fonitronik PCB I don't partake in!
I recommend at least two for everyone else! _________________ http://www.bugbrand.co.uk
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fonik

Joined: Jun 07, 2006 Posts: 3950 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:01 am Post subject:
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thanks tom,
the response was rather faint until now, though. i expected this somehow: this is not a sexy module at the first glance, no imposing sound manipulation or something like this.
but it is a very very useful voltage processor nevertheless. each mixer, voltage processor, or multiple expands the possibilities of your synth, and this one is easy to build, straight forward... _________________
cheers,
matthias
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norman phay

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:13 am Post subject:
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| Put me down for a couple of these, please. That looks damn handy. |
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RF

Joined: Mar 23, 2007 Posts: 1502 Location: Northern Minnesota, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:26 am Post subject:
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| fonik wrote: | this is not a sexy module at the first glance, no imposing sound manipulation or something like this. |
I think sexy is way overrated (in a modular). It's the plain old utility modules - mults, mixers, VCA's - that you keep coming home to....
I know this one will get a lot of use in my system - and a PC board just makes it so easy....
Thanks for offering to do this one, fonik. |
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mono-poly

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:20 am Post subject:
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| Need four! |
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Fidgit

Joined: Jul 13, 2006 Posts: 42 Location: CH
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:20 am Post subject:
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4 please
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Sound
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:55 am Post subject:
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2 to me ,
Thanks fonik! |
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sonicwarrior

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:
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I don't really get it:
Is this for CV-only or will it work with Audio signals?  |
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fonik

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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:59 pm Post subject:
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| sonicwarrior wrote: | I don't really get it:
Is this for CV-only or will it work with Audio signals?  |
both, say audio OR control voltages.
when in AC mode the modules works as a simple audio mixer. the output is AC coupled: the signal goes thru a capacitor and DC components are removed. the LEDs are disabled (would be on all the time when indicating audio).
when in DC mode the capacitor is bypassed, the LEDs are enabled. now you can mix and process the control voltages, i.e. (as scott already mentioned) apply an ADSR signal to channel #1, attenuvert (inverse AND attenuate) it and add offset with unplugged channel #2 (Switched Scott Socket method ) . now you'll get an inverted ADSR going from 10 to 0 instead 0 to 10...
the single outputs (not AC coupled) of my prototype are build following the SSS method, too. as soon as you plug a cord in, this channel is no longer part of the mix.
hope that helps. _________________
cheers,
matthias
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sonicwarrior

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:16 am Post subject:
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| fonik wrote: | | hope that helps. |
Yes, then I'm staying with my 6 PCBs order.
My modular will get big and I'll definately need them.
Mixing signals rocks!  |
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Sound
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:33 am Post subject:
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Hello, sorry the off topic but I'm wondering...
I've noticed that there are some modules that allow AC /DC in the same input, and there are others ,like this one, that have a switch and carry the AC through a capacitor.
why? What is the difference within them?
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fonik

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:51 am Post subject:
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i am not quite sure if i understood your question correct.
we handle audio signals as AC. we want to pass them to the next module AC coupled (or capacitance coupled), the DC offset is removed by using the cap. offset in audio could cause popps and plops.
we handle control voltages as DC. here we don't want to get rid of the offset, we want to use it, therefor the cap is bypassed.
http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/ph/p/id/9 _________________
cheers,
matthias
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Sound
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:26 am Post subject:
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Thanks, Good link. It has helped me very much.
But , eg. the PlanB's model9 allows both AC and DC, without any switch.
Could it block in another way the possible DC portion of an audio input? |
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