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| DES wrote: | I recently picked up SynthEdit Full. Been having a lot of fun with it - sort of like an Erecter set for software junkies!  |
I have SynthEdit, but switched to SynthMaker because the latter handles feedback much better. Have fun!
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I wasn't too sure how I would get on with doing this type of development. But I'm really enjoying it so I do see SynthMaker in my future and probably MAX as well. Cost was the initial deciding factor. At ~$70 SE was the least expensive to get into. When you figure you can easily spend that much buying one or two SE based VST(i)s I figured why not.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:00 pm Post subject:
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| DES wrote: | | I wasn't too sure how I would get on with doing this type of development. But I'm really enjoying it so I do see SynthMaker in my future and probably MAX as well. Cost was the initial deciding factor. At ~$70 SE was the least expensive to get into. When you figure you can easily spend that much buying one or two SE based VST(i)s I figured why not. |
Max (by Cycling74) is cool, but as of v.5 you cannot use Max patches as DAW plugins unless you buy Max For Live too. At least that is my understanding of the situation.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:44 pm Post subject:
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Ugh. "You CAN do this - but only if you buy that!"
Sleazy.
I say make your product from start to finish. People will buy it or not. |
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| audiodef wrote: | Ugh. "You CAN do this - but only if you buy that!"
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I don't think that's a fair characterization.
Max and Live are products of two different companies, which leads to three separate products: each company's individual product, and a piece of software that interfaces between the two and costs much less than either of the individual products.
What is wrong with offering people the choice about which individual components they want? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:30 am Post subject:
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Is Max for Live for use with Ableton Live - or do they mean like in 'live' use? I don't use Ableton....no plans too either.
Doesn't matter now (for me anyways) as I'm still up to my neck with Synthedit.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:32 am Post subject:
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Max/MSP is a stand alone application.
Max For Live is a way of integrating Max/MSP into Ableton live itself. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:42 am Post subject:
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| BobTheDog wrote: | Max/MSP is a stand alone application.
Max For Live is a way of integrating Max/MSP into Ableton live itself. |
It's a tiny bit more than, because it allows you to write Max/MSP patches that run in Live without having to purchase the Max/MSP application itself. If, however, you want to write stand-alone Max/MSP patches, you have to purchase Max/MSP irrespective of whether you have Max for Live. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject:
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| Ah thanks, I thought you needed Max as well! |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject:
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| ark wrote: | | audiodef wrote: | Ugh. "You CAN do this - but only if you buy that!"
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I don't think that's a fair characterization.
Max and Live are products of two different companies, which leads to three separate products: each company's individual product, and a piece of software that interfaces between the two and costs much less than either of the individual products.
What is wrong with offering people the choice about which individual components they want? |
That'll teach me to open my mouth without understanding what the hell I'm talking about.   |
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| audiodef wrote: | | That'll teach me to open my mouth without understanding what the hell I'm talking about. |
Somehow I expected a "not" somewhere in that phrase ... ah well.
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Picked up this Alan McKerchar MFOS synth. Lots of joy in a little case. Anyone know if there is a tie in with the graphic image from Gong's "YOU" album?
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That looks like a lot of fun! 
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| dasz wrote: | In the last 14 months I've been guilty of getting ( oldest to newest )
1. Eh 2880 looper with pedal
2. Deeper dark energy
3. Really nice compressor rnc
4. Elektron machine drum uw mk2 +
5. elektron octatrack (a gift from someone very special)
Now Before that in the past 10 years (in the order of most recent to oldest)
0. 2008 Got a xoxbox from a friend, and another friend built it for me
1. 2006 Got a dsi evolver from Dave, traded it +$ for a Waldorf xt, which I sold for a blofeld and got some $
2. 2005 Bought a yamaha rs7000 and got chastised for it ( eyes rolling )
3. 2004 got a nice pair of expanded Nord G2s from clavia, after returning a nord g2 beta unit, which I tested and sound designed on for them back in 2003 |
Here is the setup currently. Missing is the x0xb0x. Octatrack is the main mixer, mixing both the machineDrum (input with a waldorf blofeld part), and the looper 2880 which is fed by the Nord G2 Expanded (with input from Mic, synths[a mix of x0x, blofeld,DE], and the cue sends of the octatrack coming into G2 inputs 3/4 for some very strange reason 
the octatrack output is sent through my RNC although I could do that in the octatrack internally as well.
I love just being able to sample audio and mangle it and then layer again ... what fun... this is a very inspiring place to be in ...
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| Do you have any trouble getting the Machinedrum output level to be adequately high for the Octatrack input? |
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The md doesn't need much boost to be heard in the OT mixer. The g2 on the other hand doesn't have much gain at all. I find it has to be cranked to be heard. I like to leave a lot of headroom so i can boost anything if i want to.
Mind you there are some default level inconsistency issues with the OT, which need to be sorted out, but my findings are based on an average usage situation in the studio
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:37 pm Post subject:
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Quite excited about this. Not in my greasy mits yet but I am getting one from the first batch hopefully in May.
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| dasz wrote: | | The md doesn't need much boost to be heard in the OT mixer. The g2 on the other hand doesn't have much gain at all. I find it has to be cranked to be heard. |
This is not entirely true. The G2 has a weaker signal the MD but the OT's mixer gain can compensate for that. currently my g2 (I use only one of the two that I have) goes into input AB while the MD,DE,x0x,Blofeld all go through my mackie mixer and then through the looper (for now) into the OT's inputs CD. This is very flexibile and it rocks.
Andy, the new Circlon looks great, been checking it out.
I think though, with 2 elektron machines that have midi step sequencers (the OT will have it it the near future), and the step sequencers in my G2, I feel I've got enough SEQ power for now (and I have an RS7000 collecting dust)
Did you end up getting the MnM in addition to the MD and OT? What do you plan on using the Cirlon for/with? What's your set-up look like? |
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| dasz wrote: | | Did you end up getting the MnM in addition to the MD and OT? What do you plan on using the Cirlon for/with? What's your set-up look like? |
Yep I did, I seem to have been on a bit of a buying spree!
Basically I am trying to get away from the computer, I spend all day using then and the idea now of using them for my musical doodling is beginning to eat my soul.
The Circlon I am hoping will become the centre piece controlling the Elektron gear, my small modular, G1&G2 and Origin. I really went for it because of the 16 CV outs and 8 gate outs and the UI looks good for me.
I'm looking forward to the Octatrack firmware release tomorrow, I really need the ability to enable/disable record from a foot pedal, fingers crossed it will be there. |
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both from friends, the FZ-1 was going so cheap I couldn't say no and the KR+PH, krautrock phaser, is something another friend has built, I just borrowed it to try, but it sounds so nice I'm buying it
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You can trigger recording via midi though, so we are part way there.
You need to use another track for each 'overdub' though. |
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| BobTheDog wrote: | You can trigger recording via midi though, so we are part way there.
You need to use another track for each 'overdub' though. |
That's true, being able to trigger recording via MIDI is a huge advance for guitarists who want to loop with Octatrack.
That said, I'm probably going to get Ableton Live instead. That Max For Live special is very compelling.
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