Recent Changes - Search:

go to the forum

Contents

Site

Help

« may 2022 · sep 2022 »

    add a calendar item

    Main / Archiving Talk

    Main.ArchivingTalk History

    Hide minor edits - Show changes to markup

    2013-03-29 17:34 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed line 18 from:
    to:
    Added line 32:
    Changed line 67 from:

    When a TalkPage gets too long.. an editor could just manually cut out some text from the bottom. It will still be there in the history and can be restored if needed. If there is something in the text that is important.. like a how to.. then that should be transferred the appropriate Page. I am guessing that you have a way to delete spam from the history winking smiley . [Q].

    to:

    When a TalkPage gets too long.. an editor could just manually cut out some text from the bottom. It will still be there in the history and can be restored if needed. If there is something in the text that is important.. like a how to.. then that should be transferred the appropriate Page. I am guessing that you have a way to delete spam from the history winking smiley .

    Added lines 64-69:

    Delete it?

    Why not just delete it...
    When a TalkPage gets too long.. an editor could just manually cut out some text from the bottom. It will still be there in the history and can be restored if needed. If there is something in the text that is important.. like a how to.. then that should be transferred the appropriate Page. I am guessing that you have a way to delete spam from the history winking smiley . [Q].

    2013-03-07 21:04 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added line 43:

    Problem description

    Added line 55:

    Problem description

    2013-03-07 21:03 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Deleted lines 53-57:

    Hide stuff that is obsolete

    Problem description

    Changed lines 56-58 from:

    Possible solutions

    to:

    At some stage we will be spammed

    Possible solutions

    Changed lines 61-66 from:

    Hide spam

    Problem description

    At some stage we will be spammed

    Possible solutions

    Why not just delete it?

    to:

    Why not just delete it (for spam, probably so)?

    2013-03-07 21:00 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added line 60:
    Deleted line 69:
    2013-03-07 20:59 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed lines 14-15 from:

    Introduction

    to:

    Introduction

    Changed lines 38-39 from:

    Objectives

    to:

    Objectives

    Added line 54:
    Changed lines 56-58 from:

    Proble description

    to:

    Problem description

    2013-03-07 20:58 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed lines 14-15 from:

    Introduction

    to:

    Introduction

    Changed lines 38-39 from:

    Objectives

    to:

    Objectives

    2013-03-07 20:57 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added line 54:

    Proble description

    Changed line 56 from:

    Possible solutions

    to:

    Possible solutions

    Added line 61:

    Problem description

    Changed line 63 from:

    Possible solutions

    to:

    Possible solutions

    2013-03-07 20:54 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Deleted line 37:

    (:num:)

    2013-03-07 20:54 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Deleted line 31:
    Changed line 38 from:
    to:

    (:num:)

    2013-03-07 20:53 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed line 34 from:

    to:
    2013-03-07 20:52 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added lines 41-42:

    For what reasons would we want to archive contents.

    Changed line 54 from:

    Hide content

    to:

    Hide unwanted content

    Changed lines 58-60 from:
    to:

    Copy old stuff out to some other page - maybe in an Archive group .. for which there would be many .. and add some markup in the original page like (:archive Archive.OriginalGroupName_PageName_SectionId:) to be able to refer to it. This would allow for arbitrary bits to be archived out of a page ... but would need careful naming of the archive page prolly

    Added lines 64-65:

    Why not just delete it?

    2013-03-07 20:46 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed line 1 from:

    (_stub_)

    to:
    This article is a Stub, you can help this Wiki grow by expanding on it.
    2013-03-07 20:45 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added lines 1-2:

    (_stub_)

    2013-03-07 20:45 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added line 57:

    Possible solutions

    2013-03-07 20:44 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed line 50 from:

    Hide old content

    to:

    Hide content

    Added line 52:

    At some stage page text might be relevant for historic reasons only

    Changed lines 55-56 from:
    to:

    Hide spam

    At some stage we will be spammed

    2013-03-07 20:41 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added lines 34-37:
    Changed lines 50-51 from:

    Hide old content

    Objectives

    to:

    Hide old content

    2013-03-07 20:40 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Deleted line 34:
    Deleted line 35:
    Deleted line 38:
    Added lines 42-50:

    Hide old content

    Objectives

    Hide stuff that is obsolete

    Possible solutions

    2013-03-07 20:38 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed line 1 from:

    Archiving talk pages

    to:

    Archiving (talk pages)

    2013-03-07 20:37 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added lines 1-2:

    Archiving talk pages

    Deleted lines 10-11:

    Archiving talk pages

    2013-03-07 20:36 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed lines 42-46 from:

    We could invent some markup to cut off page markup - like the contents would still be there but they would not be shown on reading, on editing only ... something like {-cut-} I guess. Drawbacks .. it would require new things to be added at the top, it would still be long on editing, it would still show up in the TOC prolly. Pro's it would not need an archive, it seems simple to implement (could even use some JavaScript to unfold the details for the reader), it would still show up in the TOC prolly winking smiley.

    to:

    We could invent some markup to cut off page markup - like the contents would still be there but they would not be shown on reading, on editing only ... something like {-cut-} I guess. Drawbacks .. it would require new things to be added at the top, it would still be long on editing, it would still show up in the TOC prolly. Pro's it would not need an archive, it seems simple to implement (could even use some JavaScript to unfold the details for the reader), it would still show up in the TOC prolly winking smiley.

    Another option could be to manually cut out some text and copy it to a page called something like (Group).Page-Archive - the contents would then be gone in edit mode as well, but the contents would be 'lost' too. Some possible fix could be to have someting like {_Archived-} to indicate there is more in (Group).Page-Archive - or the system could automatically look if such a page exists maybe. Could then add a link to go to the archived bit. This looks a bit like the -Talk page stuff then - markup like.

    2013-03-07 20:30 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Deleted line 31:
    Added lines 41-42:

    We could invent some markup to cut off page markup - like the contents would still be there but they would not be shown on reading, on editing only ... something like {-cut-} I guess. Drawbacks .. it would require new things to be added at the top, it would still be long on editing, it would still show up in the TOC prolly. Pro's it would not need an archive, it seems simple to implement (could even use some JavaScript to unfold the details for the reader), it would still show up in the TOC prolly winking smiley.

    2013-03-07 20:22 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added lines 8-9:


    Added line 30:
    Added lines 32-33:

    2013-03-07 20:21 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Deleted lines 7-8:


    Deleted line 27:
    Deleted line 28:

    2013-03-07 20:21 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added line 30:
    Added line 32:

    2013-03-07 20:20 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added line 4:

    (:num:)

    2013-03-07 20:18 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added lines 31-37:

    Objectives

    Avoid long pages

    When pages get too long they will not be read. One purpose for archiving could be to cut out old text from a long chat page move it to an archive and maybe link to it. Another point with long pages is that they become harder to editor - the edit overview is not half as nice as the reader overview.

    Possible solutions

    2013-03-07 20:13 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed lines 7-9 from:


    !Archiving talk pages

    to:


    Archiving talk pages

    2013-03-07 20:12 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed lines 1-2 from:

    Archiving talk pages

    to:

    Contents

    (:toc:) (:indent:)


    !Archiving talk pages

    Changed line 13 from:
    to:
    Changed line 27 from:
    to:
    2013-03-07 20:11 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed line 20 from:
    Plenty of time indeed winking smiley but if ideas pop up, let's talk there.
    to:
    Plenty of time indeed winking smiley but if ideas pop up, let's talk thHere.
    2013-03-07 20:10 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Changed lines 1-22 from:

    This page is for talking about archiving wiki articles.

    to:

    Archiving talk pages

    Introduction

    As copied from the chatter page

    At some point we are going to need a method of archiving long Talk pages. [Q].

    found some interesting discussions on the PmWiki mailing lists ... all pretty much procedural in nature and eventually going into the question "what is archiving". I agree that shortening up will be needed at some stage, but it will need some thought ... like will archived stuff still be linkable, searchable ... shortening of a long thread, should that be only in the presentation? or in the editor too?
    Also .. what should the markup look like to accomplish tings.
    Anyway .. to me it seemed it needed some thought and discussion,
    ~ Blue Hell

    Lots of good points there that need discussion.. how about we start a page for discussion of ArchivingTalk.. plenty of time yet. [Q].

    Plenty of time indeed winking smiley but if ideas pop up, let's talk there.
    2013-03-07 20:07 [UTC-7] by Blue Hell -
    Added line 1:

    This page is for talking about archiving wiki articles.

    Edit - History - Print - Recent Changes - Search Page last modified on 2013-03-29 17:34 [UTC-7] - 1634 views