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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:20 pm Post subject:
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Version 2022.3.25.0 - and you can:
This release uses an installer - stiil - you must not install Wren in a µsoft owned folder (like program flies, desktop, whathaveyou). The installer may survive that though, but Wren still needs user writable files in the exe folder. The installer should warn about it  _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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blue hell
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wikter
Joined: Jun 10, 2016 Posts: 3 Location: Barcelona
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 11:23 pm Post subject:
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HI, while trying to install last version my installation folder changed from C:\Audio\Wren to C:\bin\Wren
I reinstalled again to find the exe file because after the first install Wren didn't copied in the expected folder.
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blue hell
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 5:19 am Post subject:
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Hi wikter,
Ah, so it goes a bit messy then ... saw you were in the chat too this morning .. I was still sleeping of course
Was it the first time you used the installer?
The current installer should - when you do an upgrade from within Wren itself (help menu) - install over the current Wren.
Howver, when the installer is used stand-alone (which unfortunately has to be done the first time the installer is used), it will not know where Wren is and you will have to tell it during the installation.
You can always solve the issue by copying all Wren files except Wren.ini to where you want it to be.
I'll run some tests here too ... later today ... maybe the installer could issue a warning or something when it can not find Wren, or show a dialog to help find the current Wren. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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wikter
Joined: Jun 10, 2016 Posts: 3 Location: Barcelona
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 1:53 pm Post subject:
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Hi, it was the first time installed in this machine and I specified c:\audio\wren (and also created a folder to avoid folder owner problems).
I installed it again because I was unaware of where my files went to and again the program changed the path after the second step of the installation.
I did a third "try" after moving & running Wren from the c:\audio\wren
The installer did that c:\bin\wren swap again. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 2:13 pm Post subject:
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Ah ok, thanks, I see what you mean now - it will indeed mess up the path and it has to be set again after selecting what must be installed.
And this is not what is intended - I will look at it. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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blue hell
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 2:49 pm Post subject:
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Ok, I've updated the installer (to version 2022.5.22.0) and remade the depending installs (for the full installation and the pre-release) to contain the new installer version as well.
And - oh miracle - it was not immediately false flagged by bitdefender as a virus this time. Maybe I should zip the installer better ...
Anyways, I hope this will fix it  _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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blue hell
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 6:54 pm Post subject:
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Aand another new one 2022.6.2.0 - I think it is about 30% faster than a while ago .. and some more stuff ...
Details are @ https://bluehell.nl/blogje/ _________________ Jan
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John_W_Thompson

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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:20 am Post subject:
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Blue Hell I have lost track and have a stupid question. Could one say Wren is sonically the same as Nord Modular G2? Or is it a do not compare situation. Thanks sir. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:48 pm Post subject:
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John_W_Thompson wrote: | Blue Hell I have lost track and have a stupid question. Could one say Wren is sonically the same as Nord Modular G2? Or is it a do not compare situation. Thanks sir. |
Sure! One can say just about everything!
And nowadays .. oh damn .. let me keep plottix out - just be sure to vote the right thing . erm left thing .. next time
But anywway ... eh .. eh .. I've never tried to make Wren sound like a Nord.
Hmm and that is not 100% true .. just 0.327% or so ...the OSC1/OscPercCS module .. i've made that one listening to Nords!
So eh .. the short answer is : No  _________________ Jan
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blue hell
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:52 pm Post subject:
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Oh and btw it is at 2022.12.4.0 now, version wise : https://bluehell.nl/
The blog has some update / revision news .. overall though .. I think Wren to be be finished!
I'm out of ideas and out of plans .. i use it .. just that .. use it :) _________________ Jan
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John_W_Thompson

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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:51 am Post subject:
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THANKS SO MUCH! |
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blue hell
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blue hell
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:12 pm Post subject:
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PHOBoS wrote: | Blue Hell wrote: | I think Wren to be be finished! |
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amazing piece of work!
maybe I'll play around with it again someday, but I don't seem to get along with softsynths very well. |
Hah, thanks pho
And .. you know .. even when my apartment maybe is, I think, slightly larger than yours .. I do not have that amount of space that you have for hardware
Also .. the 2023.2.7.0 fix was not ok yet .. made a 2023.2.8.0 as well to repair inputs better  _________________ Jan
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kkissinger
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:56 am Post subject:
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Hi Jan. I have had some spare time to dig into Wren (though I first installed it a couple of years ago). I just upgraded to the latest version.
There is a bit of a learning curve for me simply because some of the module functions are new to me. However, the patching/interface is pretty intuitive, and I am already getting some nice sounds/textures from it.
I do have a question though ... I would like to send MIDI clock, start, and reset messages:
MIDI CLOCK F8
MIDI START FA
MIDI STOP FC
I tried to use the MidiPnOut module but was unable to get it to work for those messages (though it was transmitting MIDI).
There are other methods I can use but this would be kind of elegant for my application.
Many of the modules have statistical math functions and I can see how WREN can do some wonderful generative music.
It runs very efficiently on my computer (which is a late-model desktop) and it appears I can do some pretty rich things. I may have to "load it up" a lot before I max out the computer here.
Jan, thank you for creating this and offering it to the world. I look forward to using Wren on future work -- particularly on the quarterly streaming events here at Electro-music.com. _________________ -- Kevin
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blue hell
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:01 pm Post subject:
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kkissinger wrote: | MIDI CLOCK F8
MIDI START FA
MIDI STOP FC
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Hi Kevin. I'll have a look when I find some time ... the sysex out (or a variation thereof) should do the real-time messages I guess .. if only that one would work, it never got implemented though ;)
Hmm .. but maybe Wren should be able to listen to such messages too.
Anyway - when I find time :) _________________ Jan
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kkissinger
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 7:24 am Post subject:
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[quote="Blue Hell"] kkissinger wrote: |
Hmm .. but maybe Wren should be able to listen to such messages too.
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Wren does a great job of receiving midi clock messages. In fact, Wren's MIDI integration is really great and will interface with my other equipment quite well.
I already have an idea for a module -- the input would be a set of MIDI notes and the output would be the harmonic root based on the Hindemith method for determining the root.
Is it difficult to create modules for Wren?
I will check documentation on it... this module is not a high-priority but would be a fun project to do if I ever have any spare time. _________________ -- Kevin
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blue hell
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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:42 pm Post subject:
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kkissinger wrote: | Is it difficult to create modules for Wren? |
Usually not very .. it depends of course .. and it needs Delphi ... which may not be handy
There are some things a module should not do in the audio thread - like allocate memory .. but it can do such stuff too with a bit of thought.
Most often there is some boiler plate stuff .. the audio or control bit often is remarkably simple.
For the user interface there are some naming conventions to be used to make the mapping from controls to the actual code automatically work. _________________ Jan
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kkissinger
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:31 am Post subject:
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Many of Wren's Oscillators have a knob labeled "Warp" on them however I can't find its function in the documentation.
Would you be able to describe what "Warp" does?
Thanks! _________________ -- Kevin
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blue hell
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:27 am Post subject:
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Ah .. warp is a sort of generalised PWM .. like it makes longer and shorter "half periods" (edit: which no longer are halves then .. of course ..) for square signals, and so does it for all wave forms.
You may know about the wiki @ https://bluehell.nl/wren/wiki/doku.php (which btw has no info about warping it seems).
but there is some older info too @ https://bluehell.nl/wren/history.php which does use the word warp at times.
Anyway, it makes the wave run faster in one half period than in the other while keeping the total period time constant. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:40 am Post subject:
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And .. for completeness ... sometimes warping is immplemented for random signals too .. in which case it will do something with probabillities .. like generate more and or wilder changes when the parameter is increased (and then maybe freeze the signal at the current level when set to zero). _________________ Jan
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Le DJ Abstrait
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:50 am Post subject:
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Hi. I was wondering if there is an alternate way to get the latest version of Wren... I access the internet on linux or Macintosh machines, but none of my windows machines are allowed out there. That poses a problem to update my 64.2022.3.25 Wren... _________________ DJ Abstrait, musique concrète |
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2025 11:41 am Post subject:
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Le DJ Abstrait wrote: | Hi. I was wondering if there is an alternate way to get the latest version of Wren... I access the internet on linux or Macintosh machines, but none of my windows machines are allowed out there. That poses a problem to update my 64.2022.3.25 Wren... |
I will make something for you and will post it here then .. give me a couple of days please ... and might I forget .. please remind me .. monday or so ...
but note: monday late, tuesday early [2025-04-01] my internet will be down for a couple of hours. _________________ Jan
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