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mother misty

Joined: May 13, 2004 Posts: 681 Location: Ghent / Belgium
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:03 am Post subject:
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mem wrote: |
I'd be interested in hearing about hardware samplers that can do these tricks (especially granular).
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a Kaoss Pad 3 can do granular synthesis, but it isn't very flexible  |
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Kassen
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Joined: Jul 06, 2004 Posts: 7678 Location: The Hague, NL
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:32 am Post subject:
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Grains are kinda like aditive synthesis. There are so many parameters that it all comes down to the interface which in turn depends on what you want to do. There's realy no substitute to roling your own. _________________ Kassen |
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dorremifasol

Joined: Sep 28, 2006 Posts: 823 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:13 am Post subject:
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Does anybody know if there is any other flash based sampler? Will the nord wave be the first one? _________________ Cheers,
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Antimon
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 4145 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:59 am Post subject:
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The Korg Electribe ESX has to be flash based, I'm guessing that the Kaoss Pad is also.
/Stefan _________________ Antimon's Window
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onosendai
Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 42 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:27 am Post subject:
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Elektron Machinedrum, and she can do some granular effect to. |
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3phase

Joined: Jul 27, 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:03 am Post subject:
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there was a flashboard for the kurzweil samplers when i remember correctly...but i am not sure...
If clavia is wise the give the thing a decend memory load...a year 2010 standard..nothing that appears to be a joke...
we life in the time of flash harddrives and gigabyte cellphones...
A decend memory count for the nord wave is 512 MB and more..
actually a giga byte flash would be nice ...
Your whole sample lib allways with you...
maybe they should have a card slot ..my cellphone for 300 euro has one that can do a gigabyte
So a quick but smaller access flash and a computer independant storrage device that can hold gigabytes of banks...
a performance keyboard should be able to perform libary and basic editing functions without a computer..
I even would like the G2 to have computer independent patch abilitys...
we have enough controls to do patching within the machine...the emergency editor...
with shift/patch you would enter the edit mode...
probably we dont have enough program memory in the G2 to have such things...but would be great to have no absolute computer dependency...
On such a simple thing as a sampler it would be good... |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24467 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:15 am Post subject:
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3phase wrote: | maybe they should have a card slot .. |
I asked about that at the messe, Mr. Nordelius said that he wouldn't do that. But I've seen some changes of plans with Clavia in the past
Anyway, I'd think it to be smart to have it. _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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3phase

Joined: Jul 27, 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject:
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Its a sign of wisdom to be able to change plans..good plans are anyway the ones that can be dynamical optimized...
I had to work on a projekt where we had to work bad plans thru to the obvious end... I wasnt very liked there because i was constantly fighting against that and changed the initial plans without charging the customer...
In the end it turned out that i restored the initial plan because the faulty one was based on a missunderstanding of an stupid engineer...
I was working in the customers interest and he spared the company that engaged me from beeing hold responsible..what safed them 500000... But the company that was safed refused to pay my bonus..its not the job of a freelancer to question THE PLAN ...bastards )...
I would say its the opposite.. Its the job of the freelancers to question stupid plans... They are not dependend from the company..they can speek freely and cross the hyrachic structures of the company...they are theire own company...and they are engaged for one projekt..so main loyality is the projekt and its well realisation.
anyway... we will see what clavia chooses for the Wave...
I just hope they are fast to be able to give the G2 a little tweak  |
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jksuperstar

Joined: Aug 20, 2004 Posts: 2503 Location: Denver
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject:
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3phase wrote: | I just hope they are fast to be able to give the G2 a little tweak  |
Hear! Hear! It seems a couple times a week someone new is posting how they "took the plunge" and bought a G2. Maybe the G2 is just beginning it's prime days. |
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3phase

Joined: Jul 27, 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:26 am Post subject:
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It defenetly still has potential... certain developments in electronic musical trends make the modularish dsp sounds very fashionable theese days... you hear nord modulars more often in records in certain genres than ever before... clavia could give the thing defently some boost by having some more electro/techno/minimal related enhancements..realtime sequencing is a big issue here... So an improoved OS and something like an alternativ hardware version...
Maybe a rack version with 3 faders as wheels and the slot assign controls on the right side... I would like such a package...
allways missed the global wheels..and the g2x is obsolete..was to big for me..in techno sets you rather need small equipment..that makes theese elektron boxes so popular...
Actually..the hardware i would love to have most regarding the G2 system would be a smaller version of the actual G2...without pitch and wheel but 3 faders... same keyboard but slim sides...so just frame beside the keyboard so that it fits in board baggage trollys for traveling...
That would be very cool...a new G2 keyboard version and the associated rack.. The travel versions...
Would sell more than x or xxl models... the modulars are rather a technotoy than a keyboarders dream...and the technoscene likes it compakt...
Anyway..we will see next year what they are up to... they are probably engaged enough with the organ and the wave over this year... |
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kvnvk
Joined: Aug 27, 2006 Posts: 105 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:05 am Post subject:
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a NM1-sized G2 then? |
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3phase

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:02 am Post subject:
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not necessaryly.. o 3 oct keyboard would fit in a trolly..but than ther is not much more material at the sides allowed...
when you look at the jupiter 6 you see that 4 mm aluminium on the side is enough to protect the keys..
but actually it could be even smaler... i found my mini key yamaha cbx-1 pretty pleasing on stage because you can play the litle keys pretty good when you got used to them...
a micro G2 that is not really micro but small and complete could be nice..
so like a 707 compares to a 909.. but without losses in soundquality...
I like small equipment...
when you do electronic lifeacts you have to carry arround so many things..
as smaller as better  |
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Bacizone
Joined: Oct 07, 2004 Posts: 22 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject:
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Speculation can start again
Clavia will announce a new product at the Messe 2008
http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=2696
as it is said: "... and the updates of current, red products..." |
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Wout Blommers

Joined: Sep 07, 2003 Posts: 4529 Location: The Hague - The Netherlands
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mosc
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I had a dream that Clavia made a software port of the G2 that ran on a Kyma system. Kassen came in and said he loved the converters. Tim said the delays were 24 bit and sounded perfect, except that there was 0.002% clock jitter that would require him to sell it and then buy it back. Jan said with 27 DSPs it was a great noodle box. Elektro80 said it was quite OK. Wout said there was a secret. Where was Rob?
I woke up in a sweat; my water bed's heater stuck on again...
Time to switch to a foam mattress. _________________ --Howard
my music and other stuff |
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blue hell
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject:
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 _________________ Jan
also .. could someone please turn down the thermostat a bit.
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Kassen
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | I had a dream that Clavia made a software port of the G2 that ran on a Kyma system. Kassen came in and said he loved the converters. |
That wouldn't be so strange at all. I already quite like the G2 demo on my own (EMU) and Rob's (RME) soundcard. Sounds entirely realistic to me.
Drilling lots and lots of very small holes last time I checked.
So, your strange dreams are completely like reality? (well, aside from that port) _________________ Kassen |
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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject:
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Kassen wrote: | ... Drilling lots and lots of very small holes last time I checked. ... | Kassen! That's a secret! You actually saw him doing it?
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dasz

Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1644 Location: victoria, canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:48 am Post subject:
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Howard, is your bed red? maybe it's not the mattress.
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Kassen
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject:
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Wout Blommers wrote: | Kassen! That's a secret! You actually saw him doing it?
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Yeah, it works, it's noisy but quite fast:
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Wout Blommers

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject:
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I will see for myself
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jksuperstar

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject:
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Awww..secrets!?! I thought at first it was in reference to the tilt filter...but those last comments don't seem to relate. |
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blue hell
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject:
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What Rob is drilling I don't know, well, it's PCBs, but that's it ... he setup a 3d plotter like thing to drill boards and the rumors are getting quite strong that the drilling works ok now ... after some struggle ... I don't think the boards will be for the MusikMesse  _________________ Jan
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Tim Kleinert
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject:
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mosc wrote: | I had a dream that Clavia made a software port of the G2 that ran on a Kyma system. [...] Tim said the delays were 24 bit and sounded perfect, except that there was 0.002% clock jitter that would require him to sell it and then buy it back. [...] |
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...although I have to admit that that Eventide H8000 is looking very tempting. I never knew the Eventides were fully modular. I might be tempted to become unfaithful to my beloved G2Xs...  |
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