Rumour: What will bring Clavia to the MusikMesse?

v-un-v · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject:

Yep of course there's a bigger picture and you Wout (and Rob) are the closest to Clavia's secret empire Wink

Kassen · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject:

ian-s · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:31 pm Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject:

Nitty-gritty means the tiny little details.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nitty-gritty

dasz · Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject:

I almost gave away too much!
/Dasz

Fozzie · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:30 am Post subject:

dorremifasol · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:07 am Post subject:

I wonder...

What's the difference between the Nord Wave and using the G2's input as a waveform oscillator with a sampler attached to it (triggering the notes at the same time)?

suthnear · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:31 am Post subject:

Aside from convenience, my main interest would be in being able to create new sounds via the kind of audio rate transformation shown in the messe video. I'm holding onto a waldorf q because of how good its (limited, in that there are only two of them) wavetable oscillators sound when frequency modulated, but I often wish I could expand its palette. Modulating a sample (its phase, frequency, start/end points, loop length, etc) using the g2's modulators within its freely configurable environment would be incredible.

None of this would be possible if the audio was being piped in from a sampler...

monobass · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:12 am Post subject:

dasz · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:08 am Post subject:

v-un-v · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:25 am Post subject:

3phase · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:00 am Post subject:

dorremifasol · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:05 am Post subject:

But... will those things be possible with the Nord Wave? I haven't seen many controls for the waveforms in the suface... aside from the usual ones.

monobass · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:46 am Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:47 am Post subject:

monobass · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:08 am Post subject:

NoiseLab · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:37 am Post subject:

Although it's not interesting for me to go for a Nord-synth. They could bring the 'Lead' concept to a next level with an equivalent of Focusrite's Liquid technology... so you have convolution for synths!!! Naming the 'NordChameleon'. Shocked

I think that will perfectly fit in Clavia's "performance philosophy concept"...

dasz · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject:

adding wave sequencing/wave-interpolation-morphing-feedback would also be cool ... but this requires more than one osc dedicated to samples and wavetables and a few more "modules" to implement inside the wave ...

/Dasz

3phase · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject:

iPassenger

Off topic:

Been reading this topic for a while now, n then recently realsied I didn't even know what this Kyma thing was. So had a look on google n checked it out. My word that is some machine.

Kassen · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 5:46 am Post subject:

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Kassen · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:34 am Post subject:

Oh, sorry. MAX and the Kyma are computer based (even if the kyma has a hardware component it still depends on it) so I thought we were taliking software for detailed/arbitrary buffer controll (including grains).

For hardware based grains I think you'd need a Ensoniq sampler with that alternative OS you can buy online. For that sort of thing hardware (and most software) kinda sucks, part of the problem is that you need so much detailed controll from high-rez interfaces so a good setup will depend heavily on parsing live input so you'll need something programable.

Strangely; for detailed realtime controll of bufferplayback few hardware things come close to one of the first samplers; the S612 has hardware sliders for controll of loop-points.

Alternately you could look into pitch-shifters. Pitch-shifter use a technique that's like a very specific (and limited) implementation of grains. The older the pitch-shifter and the more extreme the settings the more it'll have that typical grainy sound.