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M185 sequencer Project - NEW PCB VERSION
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's a pic of my finished Dual version.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

oh la la !

That looks great, and big.

Well done.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Here's my attempt at a panel for the M-185. It's not done yet, I'm just waiting for the hardware in the mail to make any last tweaks so that I can make sure it all fits Cool I'm not sure whether I should have a sub panel for the switches or just mount them directly to the panel.

Cheers,
Dave


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi,

It's My first try for the adaptation of the faceplate for Eurorack format :

http://www.themeloon.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/frontdesign-ryk-m185-sequencer.pdf

Of what do you think of it?

I added a modification, a gate out by step.

Have you an idea of cabling for this modification ?

Thanks Wink



PS : ->ryktnk : You have a HPGL file for your logo or FPD file of your faceplate ?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Got my switches today LIGHTNING SPEED too. They look great.

If some kind soul would like to post an FPD file for the switch cutouts and mounting holes, I would be beyond eternally appreciative. I am a front panel designer virgin, and would like someone gentle to introduce me!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello del_poolp

The panel looks very nice !

But you have missed out a switch
and need to change the "mode" switch.

Have a look at the panel wiring PDF as there
is a 4-way switch for the sequencer mode [this
used to be random on/off on my old panel picture]

Also there is a new 4-way switch which is for the stage
subdivisions, sorry.

If you would like to add a "RYK" logo I can send
one over, very flattered !

cheers

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I have corrected my front panel Wink

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The panel looks very nice !


Thanks, it's a same for my other module :

http://www.themeloon.net/diy/papareil-synth-labs-ds8/
http://www.themeloon.net/diy/papareil-synth-labs-mcv876/
http://www.themeloon.net/diy/papareil-synth-labs-polivoks-vcf/

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If you would like to add a "RYK" logo I can send
one over, very flattered !


Yes, send me your logo Wink (Look on bottom of my front panel)

For the mod (Gate out on each step), if possible, you have any idea for Wiring/Schema.

Bye,
PooLP


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So it looks like I will be building these out sooner than expected, but I still have few questions I want to clear up about the wiring before I proceed.

The switches for stage 2 show connections to the like numbered pins of the stage 1 switches. Should then the switches for stage 3 connect back to stage 2 and so on chronologically? If so, the 8 position switches show no connection for pin 1, these will then be left alone? The 4 position for stage 1 shows no connection on pin 1, but stage 2 shows to connect back to stage one on pin 1, is this correct?

Man, attaching the ladder resistors to the little switches is gonna be a blast!!

Thats it for now, thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hello numbernone

Re: switch wiring.

Sorry it's a little confusing.

Yes the all the stage 8-way switches are wired in parallel.
Pin 1 of theses switches is left unconnected.
Pin Q [the pole of the switch] is connected individually to the
"POT" connections on the PCB via a Diode [pot1, pot2,pot3 etc]

Re the 4-way switches, sorry yes the PIN 1 is also
left unconnected on all these switches [the diagram is a little misleading]

The resistors only need connecting on the first switch, it is not
too hard as the switches are big enough.

I think the PCB soldering of the LED resistors is much more of
a blast Wink

have fun !

-ryk

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That dual version by The Alison Project looks great!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Just sent payment for the switches, Ryk. Many thanks & sorry for the delay - I started a new job quite recently and it's taken up a bit of my mental space over these last 2 weeks.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: BC548B? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi Ryktnk,

I have a bunch of BC548B transistors lying around and was wondering if I could use these instead of the BC547's?

Thanks,
Dave
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hello

yes should be fine, the transistors aren't super critical.

ryl
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Great!! Thanks Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ryktnk:

i need some answers Smile i finally got all parts for the frontpanel together and now i am working my way thru the diagrams and wiring out.

- on the stage gate switches, which end is P1/P5 (? the 2 or 3 pole end?)
- same as with the stage count, is P1 = step 8 or step 1?)

also i do not understand the wiring of step 2-8. do i need to connect each P2-P8 together (e.g. like a bus system?)
(and P1-p4 of the stage gate mode ?)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

unit-sound wrote:
ryktnk:

i need some answers Smile i finally got all parts for the frontpanel together and now i am working my way thru the diagrams and wiring out.

- on the stage gate switches, which end is P1/P5 (? the 2 or 3 pole end?)
- same as with the stage count, is P1 = step 8 or step 1?)

also i do not understand the wiring of step 2-8. do i need to connect each P2-P8 together (e.g. like a bus system?)
(and P1-p4 of the stage gate mode ?)


hello
here are some answers !

stage mode switches [4way] - q1 [the pole] is the centre most pin on the row of three,
p1 is at one end p4 is at the other ! [makes no difference]

stage count switches [8way] - again the p1 or p8 you can chose
which end depending on orientation. q1 is the pin on its own.

there is a diagram of the switches posted previously on page8 of this thread

regarding the wiring, yes it is like a bus system where all the switches are wired in parallel, except the `q` poles of each switch.

hope this makes sense.

-ryk
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

ryktnk wrote:
unit-sound wrote:
ryktnk:

i need some answers Smile i finally got all parts for the frontpanel together and now i am working my way thru the diagrams and wiring out.

- on the stage gate switches, which end is P1/P5 (? the 2 or 3 pole end?)
- same as with the stage count, is P1 = step 8 or step 1?)

also i do not understand the wiring of step 2-8. do i need to connect each P2-P8 together (e.g. like a bus system?)
(and P1-p4 of the stage gate mode ?)


hello
here are some answers !

stage mode switches [4way] - q1 [the pole] is the centre most pin on the row of three,
p1 is at one end p4 is at the other ! [makes no difference]

stage count switches [8way] - again the p1 or p8 you can chose
which end depending on orientation. q1 is the pin on its own.

there is a diagram of the switches posted previously on page8 of this thread

regarding the wiring, yes it is like a bus system where all the switches are wired in parallel, except the `q` poles of each switch.

hope this makes sense.

-ryk


okay, the Q1's are now clear Smile i also measured it with the multimeter to be sure.
my question more or less regading P2 - P4 (and P2-PCool which part of P? is indicating the "lowest" position, e.g. P2 would be "I" and P3 = "II" and P4 ="l-" and as well P2-P8 = number 2-8 ?

(would seem logical to me).

if that's correct, i start bus'sing Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

unit-sound wrote:

okay, the Q1's are now clear Smile i also measured it with the multimeter to be sure.
my question more or less regading P2 - P4 (and P2-PCool which part of P? is indicating the "lowest" position, e.g. P2 would be "I" and P3 = "II" and P4 ="l-" and as well P2-P8 = number 2-8 ?

(would seem logical to me).

if that's correct, i start bus'sing Smile



hello

yes you are correct.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ryk, for the 547 transistors I have a bunch of mixed 547Bs and 547Cs. Does it matter which I use, and can I mix them on one board, please?

Many thanks.
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Norman Phay wrote:
Ryk, for the 547 transistors I have a bunch of mixed 547Bs and 547Cs. Does it matter which I use, and can I mix them on one board, please?

Many thanks.


Hello

They should be fine to use, perhaps use the same ones for the LED buffers
just so they are the same.

-ryk
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Screws for switches? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hi,
Where can I get the screws for the specialty switches from Ryktnk or what size I should look for? I've been to my local hardware and surplus store but can't get something to fit.

Thanks,
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lexvortex wrote:
Hi,
Where can I get the screws for the specialty switches from Ryktnk or what size I should look for? I've been to my local hardware and surplus store but can't get something to fit.

Thanks,
Dave


hello
sorry for the delay.

the screws for the switches I think are m2 thread, which is fairly small.
m3 is more common.

better to try and get them from electronic components
place such as Farnell or Rapid, as this size is probably to
small for DIY shop.

be aware of the depth of screw as well, as it shouldn't protrude
too much into the switch mechanism.

there are tech. drawings of the switches on page 8 of this thread.

-ryk
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Hmmmm, I've looked at several sights for an M2.6 x 0.45 bolt size including the usual suspects (digi-key, etc) but can only find one type of bolt that will fit but its got a big ugly hex head likethis,

http://www.4chobbysupply.com/servlet/the-144/M2.6-x-6mm-Socket/Detail

whereas I would prefer a pan-head or button-head type head that is smaller and doesn't stick up too far from the surface I did find the one below but it has the dimensions M2.5 x 0.45, would that work or is it too small?

http://www.modelfixings.co.uk/ht_button_heads.htm?qty=1.00&sub=1.00&shp=0.00&dis=0.00&vch=0.00&tax=0.00&tot=1.00&sd=&tp=CONTINUE+SHOPPING

Does anyone have a link to somewhere where I can get something like that?

Thanks,
Dave


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

lexvortex wrote:
Hmmmm, I've looked at several sights for an M2.6 x 0.45 bolt size including the usual suspects (digi-key, etc) but can only find one type of bolt that will fit but its got a big ugly hex head likethis,


hello

try these guys:-
http://www.microfastenings.com/Home.aspx

they specialises in m2.6 and below.

-ryk
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Great!! Thanks, I just emailed them to get a quote Smile

Cheers,
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