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neandrewthal
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| krisp14u wrote: | ivehavesent you a PM but i will put down hear too
1 full set of switchs for me |
Have you started an MOTM format layout for this yet?
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I am thinking that this module can be used as a burst generator, ala Ken Stone's module. If it's set to 1 stage only, you can obviously have up to 8 pulses occur upon each cycle or external trigger. If it's changed via analog addressing (random voltage as an input, changed via each beat's trigger), you could assign different numbers of pulses per stage and get randomized selection...or if stepped, a certain number of pulses for each of the 8 stages, cycling... Could be very interesting. Even moreso with a pair (five fast on one voice, slightly slower 3 on another voice, to create thick clap sounds, etc.). I can't wait to run them through a slew to create complex envelopes...
And am I correct that the pulse output duty cycle is VC?
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ryktnk
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| loopcycle wrote: | | i read through the thread again. now why do people want to use the slide switches instead of rotaries? i cant figure it out. it seems like more of a hassle than anything? |
Yes, they are a bit tricky, as to panel mount you
need square cut-outs.
| Peake wrote: | I am thinking that this module can be used as a burst generator, ala Ken Stone's module. If it's set to 1 stage only, you can obviously have up to 8 pulses occur upon each cycle or external trigger. If it's changed via analog addressing (random voltage as an input, changed via each beat's trigger), you could assign different numbers of pulses per stage and get randomized selection...or if stepped, a certain number of pulses for each of the 8 stages, cycling... Could be very interesting. Even moreso with a pair (five fast on one voice, slightly slower 3 on another voice, to create thick clap sounds, etc.). I can't wait to run them through a slew to create complex envelopes...
And am I correct that the pulse output duty cycle is VC? |
Hello
Sounds like an interesting use for the module.
RE " pulse output duty cycle" if you mean the width of the pulse
then yes this is voltage controllable, but only if your'e using the
internal clock.
From reading your post it soundsl like for the clap idea would
you want it to be a one shot sequence or would you open/close the
sound with an envelope ? [sadly there is no one-shot option on this seq]
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norman phay
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| Can you put me down for 20 x 8-way and 22 x 4-way please, ryk. Many thanks. That should do for both sequencers, and give me a couple of spares too. |
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norman phay
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| loopcycle wrote: | | i read through the thread again. now why do people want to use the slide switches instead of rotaries? i cant figure it out. it seems like more of a hassle than anything? |
The little slide switches look to be better to use to me, by which I mean I'll be wanting to tweak these in real time and the sliders work better for me for that than rotaries. They also have a slightly smaller panel footprint. As I'm going to be designing a scaeffer panel for these, the cutouts for them won't be a problem. |
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Luka
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im going to have to pull out of the potential switch group buy. i had a reality check. all the group buys are catching up on me, spread too thin and not focussing my cash on ordering parts to building my current stuff.
sorry bout that.
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slo
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I've already said I would like one set of switches, but just to clarify, I would like 1 set for 1 sequencer, (both types of switches)
Thanks for this
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Peake
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| ryktnk wrote: | | sadly there is no one-shot option on this seq |
Whoops, no Start/Stop gate inputs- I talked before I confirmed. I'm sure that something satisfactory can be made to happen along these lines, or that it will still provide new ideas because of its uniqueness...Not a problem, still a great project!
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krisp14u
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| neandrewthal wrote: | | krisp14u wrote: | ivehavesent you a PM but i will put down hear too
1 full set of switches for me |
Have you started an MOTM format layout for this yet? |
Not yet I’m a little snowed under with other stuff at the moment
But when I do I will post it up hear unless some one else comes up with something cool in the meantime
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ryktnk
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| Quote: | | Whoops, no Start/Stop gate inputs- I talked before I confirmed. I'm sure that something satisfactory can be made to happen along these lines, or that it will still provide new ideas because of its uniqueness... |
Well yes, you could wire up an 8-way switch from the LEDs 2-8 anodes, and then send this to the R/S input on the board [perhaps with a diode]
With this you would get a one-shot feature, where the seq would
stop when it got to the selected stage.
Leave LED1 anode to switch unconnected, this would then give you
a "one-shot" off position, and then subsequent one-shot 2,3,4,5,6,etc steps
The R/S input is a flip-flop toggle, so you could use a gate input to
fire this, but obviously it would just set the seq to the opposite of current
state, IE if running it would stop, if stopped it would run.
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Dego
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I can take switches for 1 seq, please  |
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Peake
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| ryktnk wrote: | Hello
| Quote: | | Whoops, no Start/Stop gate inputs- I talked before I confirmed. I'm sure that something satisfactory can be made to happen along these lines, or that it will still provide new ideas because of its uniqueness... |
Well yes, you could wire up an 8-way switch from the LEDs 2-8 anodes, and then send this to the R/S input on the board [perhaps with a diode]
With this you would get a one-shot feature, where the seq would
stop when it got to the selected stage.
Leave LED1 anode to switch unconnected, this would then give you
a "one-shot" off position, and then subsequent one-shot 2,3,4,5,6,etc steps
The R/S input is a flip-flop toggle, so you could use a gate input to
fire this, but obviously it would just set the seq to the opposite of current
state, IE if running it would stop, if stopped it would run.
Hope this helps.
-ryk |
Yes, it does help! Thanks for the tip.
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ringer
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Hi Ryktnk,
My front panel design is almost done, missing are the frequency, stage count and stage mode markers. I am laying out the motherboard pcb for all the front panel hardware to avoid all the flying leads. Would it be possible to have the footprint and dimensions for switches, thanks.
Regards,
Ringer
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ryktnk
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Here is a preview of the front panel.
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Hello Ringer
That is looking really nice, very cool.
Here are the switch dimensions diagrams.
I think the spacing for the switches is bigger than planned . . .
The height of the "knob ?" is as follows:-
8-way 8mm tall
4-way 7mm tall
I would recommend waiting until you get the switches
before etching !
-ryk
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julian
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hi there,
i wouldnt mind a set of switches also, (for one board)
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lexvortex
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Any chance that you will be doing a second run of PCBs and PICs?
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Danno Gee Ray
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject:
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| I would be in for one sequencer's full set of switches. |
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djthomaswhite
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Would there be a preference between "Shorting" and "Non-Shorting" switches?
Also, in the wiring diagram do the pins of each step connect back to Step 1, or to the previous step... and to which pins? Is it pin-to-pin chain or to other pins? The diagram is not too specific here. Thanks!
Tom
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ryktnk
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| djthomaswhite wrote: | Would there be a preference between "Shorting" and "Non-Shorting" switches?
Also, in the wiring diagram do the pins of each step connect back to Step 1, or to the previous step... and to which pins? Is it pin-to-pin chain or to other pins? The diagram is not too specific here. Thanks!
Tom |
Hello
Perhaps shorting might be better, but its probably
not too important, unless you managed to switch the switch
at the exact milli-second the PIC was reading the switch data.
Sorry for the confusion about the wiring, I maybe should
draw new diagram.
Do you mean the pins on the swithces ?
If yes then:-
All the switches are connected in parallel, with the voltage divider
resistors at one end, EXCEPT the "pole" pin of each switch which
is connected to the POT connectors via a diode [see diagram]
Hope this helps.
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klo
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:40 am Post subject:
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please,
make a second order.
im real horny of this sequencer and im not alone!!!! |
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del_poolp
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ryktnk
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:29 am Post subject:
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hello
ok point taken.
if there is enough interest, and when the £ is
worth something again I will try and get some
more PCBs and PICs.
PS Has anybody finished building one yet ?
-ryk |
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del_poolp
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:34 am Post subject:
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Yes, good news 
If people cannot finish, I can buy their PCB and their PIC for the same price
Just one question, its work on +/- 12v (eurorack) ? |
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Luka
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henrikgo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:18 am Post subject:
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| If there's another run, I'm in for two kits/PCBs, prepay is no problem! |
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